[scribus] scribus Digest, Vol 96, Issue 21

wena-parry at talktalk.net wena-parry at talktalk.net
Fri Mar 25 15:09:54 UTC 2016 

Greg, what is the extension "SVN" as on the 1.5svn. And then the 1.5.2svn. Is it something to do with how long it's been available and tested. Dose it suggest that its not released. 

Wena Parry
South Wales, U.K.



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Beware 1.5.2 trunk (Gregory Pittman)
   2. Re:  Beware 1.5.2 trunk (Khaled Hosny)
   3. Re:  Beware 1.5.2 trunk (Gregory Pittman)
   4. Re:  Beware 1.5.2 trunk (JLuc)
   5. Re:  Beware 1.5.2 trunk (JLuc)
   6. Re:  Beware 1.5.2 trunk (Khaled Hosny)
   7. Re:  Beware 1.5.2 trunk (Khaled Hosny)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:06:11 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Beware 1.5.2 trunk
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On 03/24/2016 02:55 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> On 03/24/2016 12:26 PM, JLuc wrote:
>> CTL Complex Script Layout big patch has been merged into svn trunk.
>> This is big news since it will enable more langage writings
>> to use scribus, and it might also help fix some long lasting
>> layout issues.
>>
>> It's necessary to test it thoroughfully and report any issues.
>>
>> On the other hand, those who wish to use the latest long tested
>> and approved version, before benefiting or latest CTL new scribus
>> ought to stick to release r21098
>> If you use maksvn script, you can get that version with following command :
>> maksvn -r 21098
>>
> Another thing that could be done prior to updating svn is to rename the
> prior folder where 1.5.2svn was, so then you can have a pre-CTL svn and
> a post-CTL svn at the same time.
> 

but maybe not. I tried this and it's crashing. Not quite this simple.

Greg



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 02:03:41 +0400
From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny at eglug.org>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Beware 1.5.2 trunk
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 03:06:11PM -0400, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> On 03/24/2016 02:55 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> > On 03/24/2016 12:26 PM, JLuc wrote:
> >> CTL Complex Script Layout big patch has been merged into svn trunk.
> >> This is big news since it will enable more langage writings
> >> to use scribus, and it might also help fix some long lasting
> >> layout issues.
> >>
> >> It's necessary to test it thoroughfully and report any issues.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, those who wish to use the latest long tested
> >> and approved version, before benefiting or latest CTL new scribus
> >> ought to stick to release r21098
> >> If you use maksvn script, you can get that version with following command :
> >> maksvn -r 21098
> >>
> > Another thing that could be done prior to updating svn is to rename the
> > prior folder where 1.5.2svn was, so then you can have a pre-CTL svn and
> > a post-CTL svn at the same time.
> > 
> 
> but maybe not. I tried this and it's crashing. Not quite this simple.

Care to elaborate, a crash is definitely not something expected.

Regards,
Khaled



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:31:06 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Beware 1.5.2 trunk
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On 03/24/2016 06:03 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 03:06:11PM -0400, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>> On 03/24/2016 02:55 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>>> On 03/24/2016 12:26 PM, JLuc wrote:
>>>> CTL Complex Script Layout big patch has been merged into svn trunk.
>>>> This is big news since it will enable more langage writings
>>>> to use scribus, and it might also help fix some long lasting
>>>> layout issues.
>>>>
>>>> It's necessary to test it thoroughfully and report any issues.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, those who wish to use the latest long tested
>>>> and approved version, before benefiting or latest CTL new scribus
>>>> ought to stick to release r21098
>>>> If you use maksvn script, you can get that version with following command :
>>>> maksvn -r 21098
>>>>
>>> Another thing that could be done prior to updating svn is to rename the
>>> prior folder where 1.5.2svn was, so then you can have a pre-CTL svn and
>>> a post-CTL svn at the same time.
>>>
>>
>> but maybe not. I tried this and it's crashing. Not quite this simple.
> 
> Care to elaborate, a crash is definitely not something expected.
> 

Didn't mean to scare anybody. It turns out that you can't just take an
installation of Scribus and change the name of its root directory. My
guess is that there are internal references to the original directory
that are now messed up. This probably also means that if I recreate the
original directory with the newer svn version, I'm not going to be
certain what I'm getting when I run the old one from the name-altered
directory, since it may be grabbing parts from each.

The ideal situation, I think, is to change where any new version goes
from cmake and leave the old alone.

Greg



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 23:40:32 +0100
From: JLuc <jluc at no-log.org>
To: scribus at lists.scribus.info
Subject: Re: [scribus] Beware 1.5.2 trunk
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Le 24/03/2016 19:57, Craig Bradney a ?crit :

> CTL was NOT merged last night. ?Boxes? was. CTL requires Boxes, but the rendering of text of Boxes looks to be very very similar to previous code although does so with better code and 3000 less lines of code.

Sure : boxes is only the first step of CTL and it's a step forward.
And it requires heavy testing so as to check it provides the same outputs both on screen and PDFs before being used for 
production purposes.

And as long as its not thoroughfully tested, 21098 is the release to compile for those who wish to work with a long 
tested uptodate 1.5.2 svn and to keep absolutely identical output for theyr old document and consistency of the new one 
with previous documents.

JL





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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 00:14:12 +0100
From: JLuc <jluc at no-log.org>
To: scribus at lists.scribus.info
Subject: Re: [scribus] Beware 1.5.2 trunk
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I updated maksvn script
so as to make it more easy to keep compiling
and using well tested and consistent 1.5.2 svn just before the merge
and to keep it easy to test experimental boxes enabled svn HEAD.

https://github.com/JLuc/makscribus/blob/master/maksvn

For the testers : 'maksvn boxes' now compiles svn HEAD
with boxes patch and further fixes inside.
Exec will be launched with 'scribusboxes'

For the others : 'maksvn' will compiles well tested and consistent 1.5.2 svn
(revision 21106, lastest revision just before the merge).
BTW correct revision is 21106 not 21098 as i mentionned in previous mail.
Exec will be launched with 'scribusok'

Both can be compiled on same machine and probably run alongside...

JL




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:38:37 +0400
From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny at eglug.org>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Cc: scribus at lists.scribus.info
Subject: Re: [scribus] Beware 1.5.2 trunk
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 12:14:12AM +0100, JLuc wrote:
> Both can be compiled on same machine and probably run alongside...

Just make sure to set different install prefix for each, bad things can
happen when a version of Scribus try to load the plugins of another one
(and file opening and saving is a plugin)

Regards,
Khaled



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:38:37 +0400
From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny at eglug.org>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Cc: scribus at lists.scribus.info
Subject: Re: [scribus] Beware 1.5.2 trunk
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 12:14:12AM +0100, JLuc wrote:
> Both can be compiled on same machine and probably run alongside...

Just make sure to set different install prefix for each, bad things can
happen when a version of Scribus try to load the plugins of another one
(and file opening and saving is a plugin)

Regards,
Khaled



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