[scribus] What is Glyphenstauchung?

[Rolf-Werner Eilert]

Hi Martin,

Here is how I came about this function (which I strangely enough ignored 
totally up to now...)

I'm planning to layout a family chronicle. My father has made one, but 
used only Word to write the texts and collected the texts and photos in 
a number of simple folders. The only layout is that he used plastic 
sheets specially made for holding photos and some for the texts.

As the period of time he covered reaches back to about 1760, stretching 
over all the decades since then, my idea was to make several books each 
with a special look of that age or decade. The first one should look 
somewhat like 19th century.

I have a reprint of a book of 1893. They simply photographed the pages, 
so it's the original font and layout. After some experimenting, I found 
it is nearly Bodoni (and some other fonts which I haven't found yet), 
but my Bodoni is somewhat rounder.

So I tried to squeeze the letters a bit, and it looked very much like 
the original. However, the words in the paragraph I tried are not quite 
equally distributed, some deviations. (I am aware it will not be 
possible to exactly copy the original way the layouter of that time set 
the lines.) This is how I came about Glyph Extension and experimented a bit.

Regards
Rolf


Am 19.12.2013 10:18, schrieb ZASKE Martin:
> Sorry Christoph and developers,
>
> I did not want to make it sound in a negative way. Like you say, it is
> about "filling lines optimally".
>
> We would need to ask a font developer what he or she thinks about
> "modifying their characters" for the purpose of layout.
>
> I remember years ago about layout books having nasty things to say about
> those consumer-level pseudo-italics tools which would alter characters
> in a rather non-so-subtle way... Now stretching laterally or slimming
> will depend on the character. Guess a hyphen will cope better than an "o".
>
> I often tell people with conviction that Scribus gives the layouter
> "total" control over what happens on the page; in contrast to Word which
> people know and which tends to want "to know better" than the user. So I
> do appreciate all the tools available. Each user will know what suits
> his or her audience.
>
> So again, no offence was meant. I hope Rolf can use it for whatever he
> has going at the moment,
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 19.12.2013 09:38, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:
>> It's much more than a "cheating tool", quite the contrary. Glyph
>> Extension is an advanced typographic tool that allows for subtly
>> modifying the (horizontal) shapes of glyphs without disrupting the
>> overall layout. It requires a bit of experimentation to get to know
>> how lines can be filled optimally, and ideally, Glyph Extension
>> should only be applied after all other optimisation options,
>> especially hyphenation, have been exhausted.
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2013 um 18:00 Uhr Von: "ZASKE
>>> Martin" <zm at revue-gugu.org> An: scribus at lists.scribus.net Betreff:
>>> Re: [scribus] What is Glyphenstauchung?
>>>
>>> In English it is called Glyph Extension.
>>>
>>> It is a "permission", I believe, where you allow Scribus to abuse
>>> (or stretch or squish) the actual characters of text for needs of
>>> justification.
>>>
>>> To see it operate, create a text box and type very little text and
>>> then opt for align text justified or even forced justified. If you
>>> set your new toy to the maxes and pick a huge font size, you will
>>> see the stretching nicely. Enjoy. (This looks like a cheating tool
>>> for desperate layout staff; still nice to have, nod to our
>>> developers.)
>>>
>>> fwiw
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18.12.2013 17:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>>>> In the style managing dialog, I find Glyphenstauchung (sorry,
>>>> don't know what it is in English locale) and some values the
>>>> meaning of which isn't clear to me. On the font tab, I find
>>>> Horizontal Scaling - this seems to be a different thing though.
>>>>
>>>> Can somebody here explain me what that is - or point me to a wiki
>>>> page or link that can enlighten me?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>
>>>> Rolf
>>>>
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