[Scribus] Idea for full bleed workaround during layout

Louis Desjardins louis_desjardins
Fri Apr 7 20:21:51 CEST 2006

Scott Karns a ?crit :

> Greetings everyone.
> I am starting work on a small book that I plan to have
> printed by lulu.com. I've chosen a book size, 9" x 7",
> and have read their recommendations for submitting
> full-bleed PDFs -- 1/4" outside, 1/8" top and bottom,
> so page size in the PDF is 9.25" x 7.25".
> I've played with an approach to making the final page
> dimensions apparent during layout and wanted to check
> with the list to see if anyone sees any problems with
> this approach before I get too far along. I did a
> quick check on the wiki, and don't see anything like
> this, so here it is.
> *Step 1*
> Create master pages of the full-bleed dimensions
> (9.25"x7.25") with all extras like margins and page
> numbers layed out as desired.
> *Step 2*
> Create document pages from the appropriate master
> pages. Add a filled black rectangle of the same size
> as the page at (0, 0) so it exactly covers an entire
> page. I call this rectangle the "bleed layout mask".
> Make sure the "bleed layout mask" is at the bottom in
> z-order. Lock its location and size. Check the
> no-print option for the "bleed layout mask."
> *Step 3*
> Create a rectangle of the final page dimensions
> (9"x7") filled with white and having no line for its
> border. Position this "page background" as appropriate
> for the page instance (left or right), Make sure the
> "page background" is just above the "bleed layout
> mask" in z-order. Lock its location and size. Check
> the no-print option for the "page background."
> Now, I still have pages that are the desired
> full-bleed dimension, but show a black perimeter
> during layout for the portions that will be trimmed
> after printing. During layout, I can enable printing
> of these extra layers when I generate check PDF's so I
> can verify my document with some final layout clues
> still in place. I just have to be sure to check the
> no-print options for these layers before generating my
> final PDF.
> I've tried some test cases, and don't see any reason
> other than the added complexity for not doing this.
> Comments or thoughts?

Hi Scott,

Bleed value is generally equal on all sides. Generally 1/8 inch is fine 
unless your printer specifically asks for more. You didn't mention the 
crop marks. No mention of the register marks as well. It may be a good 
idea to check with your printer what's needed. If you are going to put 
the crop marks (some printers will definitely ask for that) you might 
consider making your whole document a full inch wider and longer than 
the final page so you have space for bleed and for the marks.



> Cheers,
> Scott
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