[Scribus] Torture testing Scribus

Nicholas Vettese nvettese
Fri Apr 7 18:17:04 CEST 2006

Until recently, I haven't used Scribus for anything other than a play thing. 
Now I am trying to start a business, and I have found that Scribus is a 
product that deserves praise above most others.  What I used to do in Excel 
and Word, I can now do in one program, Scribus.

I am no expert at this program either, and change has never been my forte, 
but I love the challenges that await me when I want to accomplish a task. 
Scribus, although has a few shortcomings, I know that the team is working 
harder than most to make these shortcomings a thing of the past.

When people act like the team is doing them a favor by putting out this 
product, it really upsets me.  I often have to delete the harsh messages I 
write because I want to be the better person.  I wish I had an ounce of the 
creativity and drive to pursue a project like this.  And for the many of us 
who do not program, but want to be involved, I think it is our time to 
ask... What can we do?  How can we market, promote or test things that need 
to be tested?

Instead of complaining to the team about things that are broken, help fix 
them by trying to recreate the error on different machines, or by recreating 
it on the same machine.  Write down any error codes or messages, and go to 
bugs.scribus.net and file it.  If you have never been to the site, head on 
over there now to see all the bugs that they are working on.  It truly is an 
amazing thing.

Thank you for letting me have this forum to speak on.  I appreciate all that 
this team, and the group do on a daily basis.  Believe me, if I ever hit the 
lottery, you are getting the donation of a lifetime.  It would be well 
deserved.  Unfortunately, I live in New Jersey, USA, where it is more about 
survival than living.  ;)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Talbot" <pete at stagefights.com>
To: <scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Scribus] Torture testing Scribus

> Meechmunchie wrote:
>>>Plus she was frustrated because she really wanted to do a good job ...
>>In my eyes that is the point. She wanted to use it. And not thinking
>>about the philosophy of OSS.
>>  And hey, if the developers don't want that people "cry" that don't have
>>  any interests in OSS and its philosphy, they shouldn't give their work
>>  to the public.
> Since certain folks seem to be using this as a forum to cut Scribus
> down, let me add my voice to those that have had few to no problems with
> it, and have used Scribus with success where other proprietary software
> tools failed. (Most notably Quark on pre-OS X machines.)
> Scribus is a fine, fine and powerful product *as it is right now*, and
> my thanks go to the many dedicated people who have given up their time
> and energy to make it what it is today, and will be tomorrow.
> This is *not* an appropriate place to flame the developers over
> frustrations. 99+% of all computer problems, in my experience, come out
> of user error, and poor project planning. A first-time user should
> expect to shed some tears using a program of this scope, (God knows my
> fiance has shed many learning CAD.) and what a little girl cries over
> yesterday she tends to triumph over in time. This list exists to help us
> all save a little frustration by providing a forum to answer questions
> one cannot find nowhere else.
> (That's certainly not the only reason it exists, but from my selfish
> user's perspective...)   =)
> If I have misunderstood the intent of certain postings, I do apologize.
> To the idea that a gift should not cause stress, I say that the best
> gifts often do. One should not be angry with someone who gives them a
> car which eventually needs new tires. That is the nature of cars.
> Scribus is a godsend. Thank you.
> Peter
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