[Scribus] [Fwd: Re: Either I don't understand Master Pages or they justdon't work!]

[Calum Polwart]

Craig Bradney wrote:

>On Thursday 08 December 2005 15:45, Calum Polwart wrote:
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>No need to select the content, just the page.
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Well I thought I tried that and it produced blank Master's. But maybe 
they were also displaced?

>>Plus (and I've never got this to work..) if I have several master pages
>>- it just doesn't cope... Master Page 1,2,3 can all end up on Master Page 1
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>Please explain some more...
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This first happened to me back on 1.23 - I don't know why and I don't 
know if its how I create my master page but here's a quick explanataion 
[I've never reported it as a bug as I don't know if it is a bug or just 
something I'm doing wrong].  Lets assume I have two master pages (Page L 
and Page R) Page L is layed out with the same header as R, but the 
footer is mirrored so that the page number is on the Left on L and Right 
on R. (fairly standard)  This is what they should look like:

    L         R
+--------++--------+
|======# ||======# |
|        ||        |
|        ||        |
|        ||        |
|*       ||       *|
+--------++--------+

The headers need to be possitioned in line with each other etc - so I 
would create page L set it up as a master and then copy the objects out 
and possiiton them on page R at the same possition.
(The objects are two lines (above and below article title) with a 
graphic on the right, and the page number at the bottom in white text on 
top of a black SVG graphic - and grouped.  It HAS to be copied from one 
to the next to standand any hope of getting the possitioning, scale and 
size right.

When I save the document and re-open it the objects on master page L are 
sitting ontop of Master Page R??  Does that make sense...  However - 
I've just tried to find a scribus document with the problem and I 
can't!  I was certain I'd be able to if I used 1.23 but I've installed 
the cvs over the top ;-) If it happens again I'll post a link to a document

Another thing - and this seems to be sepearte issue if we have an 
article running from Page L to Page R we would prefer the header to run 
across the page.

    L         R
+--------++--------+
|================# |
|        ||        |
|        ||        |
|        ||        |
|*       ||       *|
+--------++--------+

Which works beautifully (actually I can't believe it works so well!) but 
how should we be setting up the master for that?  It seems we can set up 
L with the lines and logo

(============#) all based on L and then they kind of drop onto R when we 
deploy a blank R (actually it will be R with a page num on it) - but is 
this the right way to do it or am I likely to break something doing it 
this way and should do =======||========# with the lines going right up 
to the margins.

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>>On the other hand I had been having problems with templates ever since i
>>started with scribus but that might just be working normally...
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>>Is this because these are developments or is something broken on my box
>>again!
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>Current 1.3.2cvs is bleeding edge, in the past few weeks, about as close to 
>the blade as you can be... We can only make progress and have any chance of 
>moving forward with some major changes inside Scribus. So, track CVS if you 
>will, make your docs with it, **but you must be prepared to roll with the 
>punches**. I must say, my last magazine was done with 1.3.2cvs and all went 
>fine.
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Completely respect what you are saying - if you want something stable 
use 1.23 if you want to play with new features then do so at risk and 
expect things to break form time to time... fine.  I have very little 
experience of using CVS for things... ...if I do the tracking (I assume 
that means it fetches a new CVS each night) do I need to recompile it 
every time?  The compile porcess takes about 2 1/2 hours on my machine!

Calum

>Craig
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