[scribus-dev] Table/Cell PP sections sketches

[Gregory Pittman]

On 06/20/2011 10:08 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>
>>>> Frankly speaking, I don't understand your urge to hide everything in
>>>> menus and be happy with that. No, it's OK to have add/remove rows in
>>>> main menu and context menu, but a toolbar floating at a small offset
>>>> from the table (right on canvas) will make such common operations much
>>>> easier to access.
>>>
>>> That's interesting and worth exploring. Bringing the actions closer to
>>> what they act on is a very good idea IMO.
>>>
>>
>> Two things:
>>
>> Be sure to anticipate the desire for having different line styles for top,
>> left, right, bottom borders of each cell, and also around the entire table.
>> Not sure all of this makes sense, but it's what people have become
>> accustomed to thanks to Wordperfect, Word, etc.
>>
>> You could also consider the functions that might be contained in a context
>> menu, which I think is even more intuitive than something on the toolbar --
>> the problem with toolbar functions is that you need to create some icon that
>> makes some sense as to its function, and we've already got a sea of
>> functions there.
>
> You see, we allways end up with "I think is even more intuitive
> than...". This is plain wrong, and it's more or less why I wrote
> before that the whole properties system needs a usability study before
> any UI design starts. I'm not sure whether it's too late to
> participate in OpenUsability this year, but it's something worth
> condiering for the next year, in my opinion.

It's easy to characterize many things with the preface of "we always end 
up with..." since it falsely implies someone has real information to 
back it up with. I would say it is actually quite correct that this is 
what I think, because the last time I checked, this is what I think. I 
was not trying to speak for anyone else.

Scribus has benefited greatly from context menus, so creating a useful 
one for tables is I think more or less expected. I nice feature of them 
is that they are there when you want them, and not when you don't.

Greg