[scribus] Text flow around a frame

Ken Springer snowshed1 at q.com
Mon Jan 2 16:29:11 UTC 2017

On 1/2/17 7:24 AM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> On 01/02/2017 08:56 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>> On 1/2/17 1:32 AM, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:
>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 02. Januar 2017 um 05:19 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Ken Springer" <snowshed1 at q.com>
>>>> An: scribus at lists.scribus.info
>>>> Betreff: [scribus] Text flow around a frame
>>>> Scribus 1.5.1
>>>> How do you set the distance between the frame and the text?  I found the
>>>> options to use frame shape, use contour line, etc., but how to set the
>>>> distance has eluded me.
>>> Hi Ken,
>>> Since you've found the "Shape" tab of the Properties Palette, you
>>> might want to have a look at the "Edit" button ...
>> Hi, Christoph,
>> Once again, thanks for the reply.
>> And to repeat for those that did not read my other message, because of
>> my sig, everyone may have been mislead a bit, thinking I'm using Scribus
>> on my Mac.  I'm using Scribus in Windows 10.  My apologies for any
>> misunderstanding.
>> This time, not working quite so well.  LOL
>> I had indeed checked the "Edit" button based on what I'd read in the
>> help file.  I had selected "Use Frame Shape".  When the Nodes dialogue
>> came up, that wasn't what I was expecting.  I expected to see a simple
>> dialogue saying something to the effect of "I want X amount of space
>> between the frame and the text", as word processors I've used do this.
>> (FYI, for the frame shape this is much simpler than moving nodes.  :-) )
>>  My mind connects nodes with adjusting bezier and b-spline curves, not
>> the corners of a frame.  My conclusion...  This can't be right.
>> I went back and read the Nodes section of the help file, thinking I'd
>> missed something.  But  this time I grabbed the frame corner, and I see
>> what the developers are doing/did.  But...
>> My frame has a fill, and the fill adjusts to the node position, rather
>> than staying within the dimensions of the original frame.  Result...  No
>> distance between the fill and the text.  And, not what I want. :-)
>> Am I missing something?
>> I also noticed that when the nodes are moved, and there's an image frame
>> next to the frame you are adjusting, the image frame is not
>> affected/moved.  That, I think, might be a good feature to have.
>> I was going to rant about modern User Interface programming, but have
>> decided not to, other than to say UI programming seems to be regressing
>> as time goes on.  :-(
> There are two somewhat related things you can do, depending on your needs.
> There is text flow around frame, found in the Shape tab, and after
> setting this, you might edit the Contour Line of the frame. This will
> create a space between the frame and some other text frame behind it.

This works fine unless you have a fill applied to the frame.  The fill 
will expand to the contour line, it's not restrained to the dimensions 
of the original frame.

> If what you want is space between the text and its own frame, then you
> want to adjust Text Distances, part of the Text tab in Properties, and
> you set the individual distances, Top, Bottom, Left, and Right.

This I'm aware of, but doesn't apply in this case, although I do have a 
setting for Top.

> The reason these things are in two different places is that Text
> Distances is specific to text frames, whereas Text Flow could apply to
> any object.

Understood, and makes sense.

> Greg
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