[scribus] Problem with Styles

Gregory Pittman gpittman at iglou.com
Wed Apr 5 23:58:33 UTC 2017

On 04/05/2017 06:43 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 4/5/17 2:40 PM, Craig Bradney wrote:
>>> On 5 Apr 2017, at 22:28, Ken Springer <snowshed1 at q.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/17 1:34 PM, scrib at wexfordpress.com wrote:
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Ken Springer" <snowshed1 at q.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 12:47 PM
>>>> To: scribus at lists.scribus.info
>>>> Subject: Re: [scribus] Problem with Styles
>>>>> On 4/3/17 4:55 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/03/2017 04:57 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>>>> Windows 7
>>>>>> 1.5.2
>>>>>> I guess I'm missing something.
>>>>>> I can't seem to get a document to pay attention to the font size of a
>>>>>> style. Linespacing and other things seem to change, but not font
>>>>>> size.
>>>>>> The manual wasn't any help, nor the wiki. Both tell me it can be
>>>>>> done,
>>>>>> but doesn't tell me "how".
>>>>> The tightest control of styles will be using the Edit Style dialog.
>>>>> Select the Character Style tab to find the font size spinbox.
>>>>> Even if you import styles from LibreOffice, it's a good idea to check
>>>>> all the features, plus you can give them a name.
>>>> Which is what I've been working with. <G>
>>>> Like most people, I suspect, I started out doing the manual formatting
>>>> like I see most people do in a word processor because they won't do
>>>> styles, for whatever reason. I wanted to get a good "handle" on doing
>>>> it that way before moving on to more advanced methods like styles.
>>>> I should mention that, at the moment, I'm doing this on Windows 7,
>>>> fully
>>>> updated. I also have Scribus in Windows 10, Linux Mint 18.0, and did
>>>> have it on my Mac. It's now removed from the Mac as I'm changing the
>>>> purpose of the Mac and no longer need it there.
>>>> I plan on adding it to Windows 8.
>>>> I have no problem getting what I want using properties (F2) and have
>>>> "No
>>>> Style" selected for paragraph and character.
>>>> When I add Style Manager (F3) and the Story Editor to this mix, some
>>>> things don't change.
>>>> For instance...
>>>> In the Story Editor, I selected a style for a paragraph. In the Style
>>>> Manager, I make a major change to the Font Size (say from 12 pt. to 50
>>>> pt.), and change fonts. Nothing else. Click apply. The line spacing
>>>> changes enormously, but font and font size stays the same.
>>>> So, what am I missing here?
>>>> I've also noticed, that under the Edit menu, the keyboard shortcut for
>>>> Edit Text sometimes is displayed, and sometimes it isn't. I've not
>>>> worked on what triggers this.
>>>> I've not imported anything from Libre Office except for a couple of
>>>> documents.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ken
>>>> The story editor doesn't show the final product. Hit the check mark
>>>> icon
>>>> and you will see the final result. and exit the story editor..
>>>> Or did you do that already?
>>> Hi, John,
>>> Yep, done that more than once.  Obvious changes to the line itself,
>>> but font and font size do not change.
>>> -- 
>> If you have been editing via the palette instead of through styles
>> they may be applied still. There is a sweeper/brush icon on the
>> palette where it will clean manually applied settings and leave only
>> style provided settings.
> What is your/Scribus's definition of "palette"?  The word to me means a
> dialogue box/windows where I select a new color.  :-)
> And hopefully, said icon actually looks like a brush instead of a modern
> Rorschach test!

What Craig is saying is that, within some paragraph where you have
applied some Paragraph Style, you may have had some text that you have
changed parameters on, such as font, or font size. This amounts to an
unnamed Character Style within that paragraph, so changing the Paragraph
Style for the paragraph still leaves that short unnamed Character Style
intact (and this is the way you would want it to be).

In 1.5.x, using the 1.5.0 icon set, there is a brush icon to wipe away
these embedded changes. With the 1.5.1 icon set, there is a trash can
instead - right next to the drop down list for choosing a style.


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