[scribus] Easier word wraparound and graphic images.

ale rimoldi ale.comp_06 at xox.ch
Tue Dec 16 07:25:20 UTC 2014


> On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:35:29 -0500
> John Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> > Today to get word wraparound of a graphic
> > element requires the following steps:
> > -----------------------------------
> > 1. Put the graphic element on a layer higher
> > than the text layer.
> > 2. Make sure the layer containing the graphic
> > has focus.
> > 3. Make sure the graphic element has focus.
> > 4. Hit the F2 key.
> > 5. On the popup window select "use contour line"
> > 6. In the upper right hand corner select "Edit"
> > 7. On the next popup window select "Edit Contour
> > Line"
> > 8. (Optional) move the corners of the graphic
> > around.
> > 9.Select "End editing"
> > 10. Check to make sure that the text actually
> > flows around the graphic.
> > ------------------------
> > If your book has multiple graphics this sequence
> > becomes a bore. I recommend that the default
> > value of any graphic frame be to have
> > text on underlying layers flow around the
> > superimposed graphic frame. For those who
> > want to use other configurations steps 2.
> > through 10. would still be available. But for
> > the usual case text wraparound using the
> > contour line would be the default. If there was
> > no underlying text no harm would be done. 
> > 
> > For those of us who insert multiple graphic
> > frames, and who may want to move them around
> > etc. for various layout alternatives
> > the default of text wraparound would be a great
> > time saver. No harm would be done for those who
> > want to select different options.
> > 
> > There is another option, of interrupting the
> > text frame and starting it again after the
> > graphic frame but that causes other problems. 
> The only guidance I could find on the Wiki deals
> with contour lines. That is the guidance I was
> using. But in the usual case, a rectangular
> graphic, the editing steps can be eliminated.
> The printed manual covers this more common
> situation. But the question of padding is still
> there. So the ultimate solution from the user's
> point of view is a default of:  first,
> automatic word wrap and second a default padding
> of e.g., .125 inch or its near equivalent. Stop
> gaps and work-arounds with scripts etc. are
> welcome but dodge the main issue: what is easiest
> for the user who is putting maybe dozens of
> graphics in a book?
> Of course the developers are also users, but not
> everybody has the same user experience.
> In Ireland they had a path near a dangerous cliff
> with no warning sign. When a tourist pointed out
> this lack the reply was that there used to be a
> sign, but no one fell off the cliff so the
> consensus was that the sign was no longer needed. 
> This story is of course a myth but some of the
> same thinking seems to be sneaking into the
> development of Scribus. I read a post from years
> ago stating that since word wrap around was not
> the commonest case (a questionable assertion)
> it used to be the default but was removed.  But
> what harm did it do? 
> Similarly in earlier versions of Scribus while
> composing using the Story Editor if the author 
> encountered a situation where an additional
> style was needed it it was simple to get to the
> Style Editor from within the Story Editor,
> create the style, exit the Style Editor and
> automatically return to the Story Editor at the
> same spot. But what was easy to create in
> earlier Scribus versions became very difficult
> in more recent versions, and besides, "the story
> editor needed a complete overhaul" or so it was
> stated. 
> I am not current enough to be useful as a
> developer but I can be a spokesman for Joe or
> Jane user. If we could have word wrap around
> graphics as the default in earlier versions
> then it should be considered for
> implementation today.  If we could
> have access to the Style Editor without
> exiting the  in the Story Editor before then it
> would make sense to me to have this access to it
> today. 
> For your consideration.

in the shape editor there is a button to grow or shrink the
shape by a given percent or a given number "default units".
it might be helpful to you.

on the other side, we might consider asking irish people to refrain from
using scribus, so that the team cannot be held responsible for people
falling down from clipping paths...


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