[scribus] collecting for output

[Rolf-Werner Eilert]

Now, this runs well on my system:

#!/bin/bash

SORTIE=~/Dokumente/pour_la_sortie


#first step: starting Scribus as usual

/usr/local/bin/scribus

#second step: chmod the files

if [ -d $SORTIE ]
then
     chmod 644 $SORTIE/*
fi

You will have to change "Dokumente" to whatever the directories on your 
systems are, maybe "Documents". It was a bit tricky with "" or better 
not "", and it had to be 644 of course... ;)

Regards
Rolf


Am 09.12.2013 19:04, schrieb ZASKE Martin:
> Dear Rolf, thanks for offering help with a script,
>
> "the show must go on", so (although I hardly ever do this) I grabbed my
> Kofler last week and I wrote this script:
>
> ____liberer____il_faut_me_double-cliquer_avant_de_partir
>
> (that is the file name, which makes it always stay on top of the folder
> and it tries to tell my team to click the beast.
>
>
>
> quote
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> chmod g+r *.*
>
> chmod o+r *.*
>
> echo -e "\a"  #beep
>
> echo "Merci, toutes les fichiers sont liberé maintenant."
>
> endquote
>
>
> This script itself is executable (of course) and it has got
> special-rights, so the entire team can execute it. It always travels
> with the collected-for-output folder, by being copied. It seems to work.
>
> There are several problems still:
>
> The team has to remember to double-click it from the explorer. But once
> finished their work, there might be a power cut or they are tired. It
> would be more natural to call a script, if you want to start your own
> work. But rights cannot be taken, they need to be given.  :)
>
> Also the beep does not work on this machine. Maybe I got the syntax
> wrong. It would be much better if the user at least had a confirmation
> that the script has done something. And even better, if a
> thank-you-message would come up. But the echo-message only comes up,
> when the script is called from a terminal (which is not the right
> context for my young African trainees).
>
> So Rolf, have a look and make it better, if you want, please. (People
> are calling it from Dolphin explorer.) Or somebody maybe have an idea
> how the system itself could trigger the script in the context of the
> user logging out or the machine shutting down. Remember, there are
> always several copies of that output-folder on the machine, one in each
> users /home as each user is pulling his own fresh copy when he/she is
> starting a working-session.
>
> It is getting late and I still need to sprinkle a few dozen ant-drawings
> and centipedes all over a certain page... (children's activity page)
>
> thanks,
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 09.12.2013 17:58, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>> Dear Martin,
>>
>> I guess they are reading this mailing list and will answer you
>> appropriately.
>>
>> My C++ knowledge is not that good. I browsed the source (it's
>> scribus/collect4output.cpp), but I couldn't make out where the
>> appropriate place for that would be. So it will be better to let the
>> developers do that ;)
>>
>> But what do you think about a small script which would be called by the
>> person who has collected for output just after output? You would only
>> have to copy the script to everyone's computers and maybe connect it
>> with an icon. The script can be in the directory together with the files
>> or somewhere else. It only has to know the name of the directory then.
>> Would you like me to help you making one? As far as I can see, it would
>> only have to "chmod 655".
>>
>> The only drawback would be that the person who has worked on the project
>> has to remember to call the script after work and collect...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
>> Am 09.12.2013 16:35, schrieb ZASKE Martin:
>>> Dear Rolf,
>>>
>>> thank you very much for looking into it.
>>>
>>> We have been happily using collecting-for-output for several years on
>>> several versions. Our project is somewhat dynamic, so we have often
>>> reason to move projects between computers, and we like it for
>>> all-in-one-backup too.
>>>
>>> We have so far understood its usefulness and its limitations. I like it.
>>> The compress does not claim to compress the entire folder; it just
>>> nicely compresses the scribus-file within that folder. We like it that
>>> way.
>>>
>>> The only issue we are having now, is the workflow between different
>>> users. I thank you for confirming that on your machine it also does
>>> assign surprising file-rights for fonts and illustrations. This tells me
>>> that it is not just some hiccup on our office machine.
>>>
>>> I guess I will after all pose this question to the developers, maybe
>>> they know where to tweak it. Where would I get in touch with them? Is
>>> filing a bug really the right thing to do; or should I not first ask it
>>> somewhere as a question?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09.12.2013 15:39, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> you are right. Just tested it, never used it before. The .sla keeps 655,
>>>> but pictures and/or fonts get 600.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore: Scribus itself sets its file pointer to this new directory.
>>>> That is confusing. I would expect this to act like an export function.
>>>>
>>>> When I check "compress", I get a .gz file which is not unpackable by
>>>> unzip, the pictures have disappeared from it. But it has 655. Fonts are
>>>> not packed into it but delivered separately, they have 600.
>>>>
>>>> Another confusing thing is that the directory has to exist before, the
>>>> function cannot make it.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, this is a Suse 12.1 with Scribus 1.4.2, so it is reproduceable
>>>> even on an older system, and to me it is kinda "not thought up to its
>>>> end".
>>>>
>>>> If you use it this way, I would not use the compress option but include
>>>> e. g. the fonts. And a script to change the files to 655 BEFORE they are
>>>> handed on (because at that time, they still belong to the person who
>>>> worked on them) should be the best workaround to cope with it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Rolf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.12.2013 13:45, schrieb ZASKE Martin:
>>>>> Dear Peter and list,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The ownership for the Scribus-collected-for-output never changes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Example:
>>>>>
>>>>> My wife was the owner of the folder and she has just finished layouting
>>>>> the children's-page. Then she has somehow managed to tweak the
>>>>> permissions (my temporary script) and now I got the rights to pull the
>>>>> entire folder to my home as a copy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the entire folder and all its content is owned by me (user =
>>>>> martin), since I created the copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I open the scribus document and I do the layout for the
>>>>> agriculture-fertilizer-page. And when I am done I do
>>>>> collecting-for-output.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was the owner of each photo and of each font, when I started working
>>>>> with Scribus, but after the output, again the rights get turned to
>>>>> "owner only, group and others get lost".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So now, before I can tell the next team member that I am done, and
>>>>> he or
>>>>> she can pull his/her copy, I need to tweak the rights again. Otherwise
>>>>> the next person would not even have the rights to pull a copy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So ownership does not seem to be the problem either.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again and please keep the ideas coming. I am very hesitant to
>>>>> file a bug, for something I need to understand first. I appreciate
>>>>> those
>>>>> developers and the last thing they need is to be bothered. I just
>>>>> wonder
>>>>> where I might find documentation about the collecting-for-output.
>>>>>
>>>>> I learnt this morning that in dolphin I can display a column for the
>>>>> "rights" of each file or folder. Very useful for my problem. All
>>>>> morning
>>>>> I have done layout of another page. And I was using LibreOffice and
>>>>> Gimp
>>>>> a lot. I can report that the outputs (save or export) of the other
>>>>> programs produce a default right of "-rw-r--r--" as seems right with my
>>>>> umask (0022) that I quoted earlier today.
>>>>>       So I hope this means that my OS is not entirely messed up. In
>>>>> fact it
>>>>> is a fresh installation of OpenSuse 12.3 as of last week. I still hope
>>>>> to update, but we are talking hundreds of MB and our African internet
>>>>> has not even managed this morning to "refresh" the repositories, it
>>>>> keeps stalling on timeouts.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this stage I would hope there is some other user on this list, also
>>>>> using Scribus 1.4.2, preferably on OpenSuse, who would please do a
>>>>> collecting-for-output and let us know what rights get assigned to the
>>>>> Scribus files, and to the photos and to the fonts.
>>>>>       I did not mess with my OS and my Scribus is also fresh and all
>>>>> default
>>>>> (just the entire OS and Scribus are running in French, which is needed
>>>>> for this country).
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>
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