[scribus] Creating multi- page magazine

Mon Oct 8 13:44:51 UTC 2012

Greg
It would be great if Open Office could be imported into Scribus 1.4.1 
but from my experience it dose not import the styles of any sort. I 
have also attempted to use Ctrl b. for bold but it works in open Office 
but dose not import.

I used to be able to do so.

SO, WHAT VERSION OF OPEN OFFICE DO YOU USE????

Wena

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Creating multi- page magazine (wena-parry at talktalk.net)
   2. Re:  Creating multi- page magazine (Gregory Pittman)
   3. Re:  Creating multi- page magazine (Erich Dollansky)
   4. Re:  Creating multi- page magazine (ale rimoldi)
   5. Re:  Creating multi- page magazine (Jos? Young)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:48:20 -0400
From: wena-parry at talktalk.net
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Ciao
It would be like haven to have the ability to import into Scribus text
with such which retain its formatting, such things as Italics, Bold,
Underlining and if possible Subscript and Superscript and Indenting.
Preferably from OpenOffice.

I have a big 200 + book coming from Canada with all this formats in it.
I can foresee me making a some mistakes and having to send my work to
the client in PDF and then editing in Scribus, able days to do so.

The to be able to import to do final edit in OpenOffice.

Wena

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Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:51:05 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
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On 10/07/2012 02:48 PM, wena-parry at talktalk.net wrote:
> Ciao
> It would be like haven to have the ability to import into Scribus 
text
> with such which retain its formatting, such things as Italics, Bold,
> Underlining and if possible Subscript and Superscript and Indenting.
> Preferably from OpenOffice.
>
> I have a big 200 + book coming from Canada with all this formats in
> it. I can foresee me making a some mistakes and having to send my 
work
> to the client in PDF and then editing in Scribus, able days to do so.
>
> The to be able to import to do final edit in OpenOffice.
>
The way to do this is to refrain from doing any text editing in 
Scribus.
Make your various styles, etc., in LibreOffice (or OpenOffice), and 
they
should be successfully imported with the text. When you proofread and
find errors, go back to the ODT file and edit in LO/OO, then import
again. Of course with 200 pages, you will want to break this up anyway,
but certainly re-importing a huge ODT file would be a task which might
rightfully provoke anxiety for the layout.

Having said this, you may still need to tweak styles. I don't think 
that
LO/OO can match the precision of font size, for example (at least it
won't show any value smaller than tenths of a point). For the layout of
a book, there probably will be some places where a line or some words
might need some very subtle adjustments to fit or for aesthetic reasons.

Greg

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:56:46 +0700
From: Erich Dollansky <erich.lists at ovitrap.com>
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Subject: Re: [scribus] Creating multi- page magazine
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Hi,

On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:51:05 -0400
Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com> wrote:

> On 10/07/2012 02:48 PM, wena-parry at talktalk.net wrote:
> > Ciao
> > It would be like haven to have the ability to import into Scribus
> > text with such which retain its formatting, such things as Italics,
> > Bold, Underlining and if possible Subscript and Superscript and
> > Indenting. Preferably from OpenOffice.
> >
> > I have a big 200 + book coming from Canada with all this formats in
> > it. I can foresee me making a some mistakes and having to send my
> > work to the client in PDF and then editing in Scribus, able days to
> > do so.
> >
> > The to be able to import to do final edit in OpenOffice.
> >
> The way to do this is to refrain from doing any text editing in
> Scribus. Make your various styles, etc., in LibreOffice (or

there are some problems - at least up to 1.4.1 - which stopped me doing
this 100%. But I see the advantage of doing it.

> OpenOffice), and they should be successfully imported with the text.
> When you proofread and find errors, go back to the ODT file and edit
> in LO/OO, then import again. Of course with 200 pages, you will want
> to break this up anyway, but certainly re-importing a huge ODT file
> would be a task which might rightfully provoke anxiety for the layout.
>
> Having said this, you may still need to tweak styles. I don't think
> that LO/OO can match the precision of font size, for example (at
> least it won't show any value smaller than tenths of a point). For
> the layout of a book, there probably will be some places where a line
> or some words might need some very subtle adjustments to fit or for
> aesthetic reasons.
>
If an Text Processor could match scribus, nobody would use scribus.

My problem with this approach is that if the text processor provided a
file which is 'good enough' there would be no need to use scribus at
all.

I only can suggest the method I use. Get the text as good as possible
done in some external tool, import it and then stick with scribus. This
should be less effort and will deliver the result faster as the
influence of a change is seen at the spot.

We also have to consider that we are talking about things which are so
hard to recognise by a beginner that the beginner does not even
understand what we are talking about.

Erich
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:48:21 +0200
From: ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch>
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hi erich

you have several good points.

> We also have to consider that we are talking about things which are so
> hard to recognise by a beginner that the beginner does not even
> understand what we are talking about.

just one comment from my side: i fully agree that a beginner (or even
somebody who is not an "expert", what that means...) won't understand
what the issue is!

but i can tell you, that many beginners notice that there is something
wrong going on, something making things too complicated, frustrating.

let's fix it!

ciao
a.l.e

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:53:12 -0300
From: Jos? Young <young.vn at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [scribus] Creating multi- page magazine
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A comment about "beginers".

I have been watching the list for some time, and to be honest, it scares
me. Most of you are talking way above my head. I have Scribus installed,
have tried to play around with it, but even some of the more simple 
things
are not obvious... despite the manual.

I have been working with Coral Ventura for many years. It is a mainly a
text oriented program. But.... it is getting old and since I work in 
Linus
I would prefer not using a Windows program.

So I guess I will just sit in for a few months (years?) and watch the 
list
with the hope that I can begin to function with Scribus.

Jos?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:48 AM, ale rimoldi <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> wrote:

> hi erich
>
> you have several good points.
>
> > We also have to consider that we are talking about things which are 
so
> > hard to recognise by a beginner that the beginner does not even
> > understand what we are talking about.
>
> just one comment from my side: i fully agree that a beginner (or even
> somebody who is not an "expert", what that means...) won't understand
> what the issue is!
>
> but i can tell you, that many beginners notice that there is something
> wrong going on, something making things too complicated, frustrating.
>
>
> let's fix it!
>
> ciao
> a.l.e
>
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