[scribus] importing odt text files

wena-parry at talktalk.net wena-parry at talktalk.net
Mon May 21 10:10:20 UTC 2012

I have seen the text saving system in story editor, is it for saving 
the text in story editor so as to be able to retrieve it into Scribus 
if needed?


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Performance problems with scribus 1.4.1 under MacOS
      10.7.4 (Gregory Pittman)
   2. Re:  spellcheck and issues rising (John Beardmore)
   3.   importing odt text files (Peter Nermander)


Message: 1
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 20:23:21 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
To: Scribus User Mailing List <scribus at lists.scribus.net>
Subject: Re: [scribus] Performance problems with scribus 1.4.1 under
	MacOS 10.7.4
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On 05/19/2012 11:29 AM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> On 05/18/2012 04:48 AM, Christof Jung wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am relatively new to Scribus.
>> Currently I am trying to layout a simple A5 invitation which so far
>> has a
>> photo (<  5 MB) and some text on path, and some plain text, so 
>> really big. Anyhow, whatever click I make (edit a path, zooming,
>> scrolling
>> ...), I get the "spinning waterball" of MacOS for one or two 
>> This
>> is obviously annoying and makes it almost impossible to work with.
>> My Macbook is fairly recent and I have, except for Firefox, no other
>> application running in parallel.
>> I upgraded from 1.3.9 recently and I think I did not have these
>> performance
>> problems in the old version.
>> Thanks
> Even "< 5 MB" is pretty big for something reduced to A5.
> You can try setting the display resolution to Low, or maybe even turn
> off the display of the image when you are not needing it.
Something I just discovered which would be useful to know as an option:

If you look in the Layers dialog, there is a check box for each layer
for Outline Mode. What this does is simplify graphical elements on that
layer, so a vector drawing would show only outlines, images would not
show in an image frames on that layer.



Message: 2
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 03:33:06 +0100
From: John Beardmore <John at T4sLtd.co.uk>
To: scribus at lists.scribus.net
Subject: Re: [scribus] spellcheck and issues rising
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On 19/05/2012 21:24, Craig Bradney wrote:
> On 5/19/12 9:37 PM, John Beardmore wrote:
>> On 19/05/2012 19:54, Jean Ghali wrote:
>>> Le 19/05/2012 20:41, John Beardmore a ?crit :

>>>> Does 'resolved' mean it will work under windows ?
>>> Yes, also... Contrary to aspell, hunspell is fully supported on 
>> Yeeeee Haaaa !
>> After all these years !!   (User since
>> One of the bleats I've had from people who are probably just too 
idle to
learn Scribus is that 'it
>> doesn't even have a spelling checker' !
> Which was incorrect, at least, it did, but just not on Windows :)


Or Macs very easily by the sound of it. Did it work on OS/2 ?  Might it
be fairer to say that it only worked on Linux ?

>> I think this was pretty much the last key feature that was missing. 
Plenty of
bugs to fix and many
>> wonderful things can still be added of course, but thank you so much 
sorting this !
>> Is there a windows installer for 1.4.2 yet ?
> No because we haven't released 1.4.2 yet.

No -  I just asked because there have been windows builds of some SVNs
in the past, and very useful they were too.

>> Is Hunspell the same spell checker as Open Office uses ?  If so, 
will it
share the same dictionaries ?
> Yes, it uses the same dictionary format. I am working on a downloader 
people don't have to
> install OO.org/LO to get the dictionaries though, as I have no 
intention of
including them in SVN.

So if you already have LO installed, will it find all it needs without
additional download ?

> Scribus looks for them already in default locations on Linux, Windows 
and OSX.
The spell checker
> functionality currently covers the aspell functionality

Having never got aspell to work, I don't know what this adds.

> (and fixes quite a few bugs) and adds
> checking to Story Editor.

Excellent news, though I do sometimes find that when I invoke the story
editor, it immediately alters the appearance of the story I'm working 

This is a real PITA, and has almost made me abandon the story editor. 
seems not to alter the assignment of paragraph styles, but the text is
displayed incorrectly.

If I change a paragraph in the story editor, that paragraph seems to
display correctly on closing the story editor, but the others will
retain their new found and unexpected format.

I can force it back to the assigned paragraph styles by highlighting
paragraphs, then using 'Properties->Text->Style Settings->Remove Direct
Paragraph Style Formatting', but as the unexpectedly transformed text 
often bigger than the original, this can take a few goes as you can't
highlight the whole story at once.

Is this reformatting of text on opening the story editor a known
bug ?  I'm seeing it under windows 7 at the moment, but I think I saw
this a couple of years ago under XP too, so I assume it's been around
long enough to be well documented by now ?

If it's necessary to spell check in the story editor, could a work
around be identified for this formatting bug please ?  For me, it is 
of the more tiring Scribus problems, and again, doesn't make it easy to
get other people to take Scribus seriously.

Setting aside spell checking, I could abandon the story editor, if it
were it not for difficulties copying text when not in the story editor.
Outside the story editor, <Alt>EC only seems to be able to take one
paragraph at a time, regardless of what you highlight. Is this designed
behaviour, or a 'new feature' ?  I don't recall Scribus having this
issue in 1.3.3.x

In the absence of a spell checker, I've taken to copying (using
<ALT>EC), chunks of text into Libra Office Writer to spell check. If 
have to invoke the story editor to be able to copy large chunks of 
and invoking the story editor means you have to go back and do the
'Properties->...->Remove Direct Paragraph Style Formatting' thing 
again, it makes using Scribus far more irritating (and less productive 
credible to newcomers) than it need be.

I don't mean to grumble, THIS IS GREAT SOFTWARE, but I'm now doing a
second 75 page sustainability audit write up this week in Scribus, and
being bitten by the same ergonomic problems repeatedly is getting to me.

Cheers, J/.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 07:52:55 +0200
From: Peter Nermander <peter at nermander.se>
To: scribus at lists.scribus.net
Subject: [scribus]  importing odt text files
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> Once they are in the edit text window, I manually click on each box on
> the left hand side and choose 'standard' or 'no style' because they
> all come with differing styles once converted. ?Is there a way to do
> this all at once? ?It's pretty time consuming this way so I'm sure

Ctrl-A (to select All) and then use the menus at the top so change the
style for the whole selection?

But if you don't use the imported styles, why don't you save as text
files instead of odf?



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