[scribus] Fwd: Improve typographic rule support

Louis Desjardins louis.desjardins at gmail.com
Thu Oct 27 13:31:11 UTC 2011

2011/10/27 Gregory Pittman <gregp_ky at yahoo.com>

> On 10/27/2011 06:10 AM, JLuc wrote:
>> Le 27/10/2011 11:30, Czarek a écrit :
>>> LOL. This has been known for ages.
>>> And now you all see how clerkless I am ... ;-)
>> I think that you are a wonderfull user,
>> and i totally agree with : at this point, usability matters most.
>>  > who cares about it, if it is acceptable enough and users want to put
>> best
>>  > quality out for usability...
>> Usability, userfriendliness, ergonomie, quality User Interface,
>> affordance, ...
> I think it's more important to have some understanding of what makes for a
> good outcome of whatever algorithm you are using. If you don't you simply
> have some smug attitude that you are using "the best" and by some people's
> definition, everything else is inferior.
> I certainly don't consider myself an expert in this. What I look for is an
> overall pleasing look to a block of text (i.e., no rivers or other
> unintended visual distractions), that there is a limited use of hyphenation
> (and especially not several lines with hyphenation one after the other), and
> that when hyphenation is used, it is not such that there is no intuitive
> sense of what the rest of the word on the next line might be -- this leads
> to a small cognitive hitch as you read through some text. One also looks for
> awkward hyphenation.
> In John's Scribus PDF (full width):
> ... re-
> ceived ...
> this is very ambiguous. In general, various short syllable breaks, like
> in-, de-, re- have so many possible endings. This can be the most difficult
> to prevent.
> InDesign:
> ... pri-
> vate ...
> one might consider preventing hyphenation of 2-syllable words to avoid
> this.
> Finally, this one in TeX:
> ... announc-
> ing ...
> I have to say, I think this one is quite a mistake. Who would hyphenate
> announcing at this point in the word? Note that Scribus has a better
> announ-cing.
> So to intentionally belabor this a bit, all of these DTP programs have
> issues. None is perfect. Each one requires scanning for unpleasant surprises
> or bad choices.

I have added a comment to an existing bug and a .ui file that I believe
would be one way of making Scribus work better for users and help achieve a
smoother typographic color. Please let me know what you think and if this is



> Greg
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