2011/10/27 Gregory Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregp_ky@yahoo.com">gregp_ky@yahoo.com</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On 10/27/2011 06:10 AM, JLuc wrote:<br>
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Le 27/10/2011 11:30, Czarek a écrit :<br>
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LOL. This has been known for ages.<br>
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And now you all see how clerkless I am ... ;-)<br>
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I think that you are a wonderfull user,<br>
and i totally agree with : at this point, usability matters most.<br>
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> who cares about it, if it is acceptable enough and users want to put<br>
best<br>
> quality out for usability...<br>
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Usability, userfriendliness, ergonomie, quality User Interface,<br>
affordance, ...<br>
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I think it's more important to have some understanding of what makes for a good outcome of whatever algorithm you are using. If you don't you simply have some smug attitude that you are using "the best" and by some people's definition, everything else is inferior.<br>
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I certainly don't consider myself an expert in this. What I look for is an overall pleasing look to a block of text (i.e., no rivers or other unintended visual distractions), that there is a limited use of hyphenation (and especially not several lines with hyphenation one after the other), and that when hyphenation is used, it is not such that there is no intuitive sense of what the rest of the word on the next line might be -- this leads to a small cognitive hitch as you read through some text. One also looks for awkward hyphenation.<br>
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In John's Scribus PDF (full width):<br>
... re-<br>
ceived ... <br>
this is very ambiguous. In general, various short syllable breaks, like in-, de-, re- have so many possible endings. This can be the most difficult to prevent.<br>
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InDesign:<br>
... pri-<br>
vate ...<br>
one might consider preventing hyphenation of 2-syllable words to avoid this.<br>
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Finally, this one in TeX:<br>
... announc-<br>
ing ...<br>
I have to say, I think this one is quite a mistake. Who would hyphenate announcing at this point in the word? Note that Scribus has a better announ-cing.<br>
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So to intentionally belabor this a bit, all of these DTP programs have issues. None is perfect. Each one requires scanning for unpleasant surprises or bad choices.<br></blockquote><div><br>I have added a comment to an existing bug and a .ui file that I believe would be one way of making Scribus work better for users and help achieve a smoother typographic color. Please let me know what you think and if this is implementable.<br>
<br><a href="http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=9848">http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=9848</a><br><br>Louis<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Greg<br>
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