[scribus] Master pages

Louis Desjardins louis.desjardins at gmail.com
Thu Feb 3 16:48:30 CET 2011

2011/2/3 Gregory Pittman <gregp_ky at yahoo.com>

> On 02/03/2011 08:43 AM, John Culleton wrote:
>> On Monday 31 January 2011 12:12:34 John Jason Jordan wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:20:06 -0800 (PST)
>>> You can't edit objects on a master page while in a document page.
>>> The concept of the master page is for items that you want to apply
>>> to all or several pages and you don't want them to be changed.
>>> If you want to create automatic text frames look at the New
>>> Document dialog box where you can check the box for Automatic Text
>>> Frames.
> (This is probably more than you wanted/needed, but I thought it would be
> good to lay all this out in one place for various readers.)
> A Master Page is just a background to whatever material you put on top of
> it. The default Master Page is the blank one labeled 'Normal'.
> At least with the way that MPs work now (there have been some discussions
> about changing this), it is meant to be a fixed set of features, and that
> anything you would like to change from page to page should use the normal
> editing process. Only one kind of MP can be used on a given document page.
> You have all the same tools to edit MPs as you have for normal editing, but
> you can't edit both at the same time, and you can't even send something
> to/from an MP like you might send something from one layer to another. You
> can, of course, create an MP from a regular page, but this is something of a
> one-way street.
> You can have a whole family of MPs, variations on each other, applying as
> you see fit to the various pages of your document. There is nothing about
> MPs that prevents usage of Automatic frames, though I might add that there
> is no such thing as Automatic frames for MPs.


We have had long discussions about the empty text frames in a Master Page.
Maybe at this point the confusion is only one of vocabulary since various
DTP apps use Master Pages for a Master Layout that offers the possibility of
putting empty frames that you can then fill while in the Edit Mode in the
Document itself.

What Scribus does is completely different — but in my view completely sane
too. Hence, why not rename Master Pages to Background Elements or something
similar that would lead just about anybody to understand what those so
called "Master Pages" are all about.

Again, the actual behavior is completely sane in my view as people have to
realize that once we give the edit capacity to those MPs, then they are not
MPs anymore and this leads to so many errors in the professionnal world that
I do stand completely with the idea of those BPs, background pages or BE for
Background Elements.

Long-time apps in the graphic industry have defined the concept using the
word "master". If we use the same word for a different concept we're only
and obviously creating (evitable) confusion.



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