This is beginning to click. A frame within a frame. The back frame has the manually positioned images, border style. The inner frame has the text. Going into XP now, to get the measurements. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Text-frame-border-from-clipart-tf3493594.html#a9765784 Sent from the Scribus mailing list archive at Nabble.com.