[Scribus] Scribus for Mac OS X

[jon]

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>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I think it could help us and you a lot to figure out what the problem
>> is if you stay with one procedure after another.
>> Installing Fink and scribus with Fink is only one way (btw the sw
>> folder must exactly stay where put).
>> If you want to install additional software with Fink you might need
>> Fink Commander (the GUI for Fink), too.
>>
>> If it seems that there is a font related problem, this should be
>> cleared out first, before you try different approaches.
>>
>> I really recommend to disable all privately installed fonts by
>> temporarely removing them from the previously mentioned directories.
>> After that: startup X11(or a prog that makes use of it) to let it
>> rewrite its font cache.
>> For this time you might leave fonts installed in the X11 directory
>> untouched.
> ? ?Jon, what is considered the fonts I need to leave? Is there a list  
> I should refer to?
> ? ? ?Again, can you indicate for me where I need to look to move these  
> fonts?
> ? ? ?Seems to me, there are 3 spots?

One important note - I copied the names of my system fonts with a  
standard installation (10.4.8) - there
might be minor differencies in yours. Have a look a the modification  
date and you can easily find out if there are others,
but these do have to stay at least:

system/library/fonts/
 >>>>>>>>>stay where put:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
????.ttf
????.ttf
?? Pro.ttf
???????? Std W8.otf
???????? Pro W6.otf
???????? Pro W3.otf
??????? Pro W6.otf
??????? Pro W3.otf
???????? Pro W4.otf
ZapfDingbats.dfont
TimesLTMM
Times.dfont
Times LT MM
Symbol.dfont
OsakaMono.dfont
Osaka.dfont
Monaco.dfont
LucidaGrande.dfont
LastResort.dfont
Keyboard.dfont
Helvetica.dfont
Helvetica LT MM
HelveLTMM
Hei.dfont
Geneva.dfont
Geeza Pro.ttf
Geeza Pro Bold.ttf
Courier.dfont
AquaKanaRegular.otf
AquaKanaBold.otf
AppleGothic.dfont
Apple LiGothic Medium.dfont
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

/library/fonts/
 >>>>>>>>>stay where put:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Andale Mono
Ayuthaya.ttf
ArialHBBold.ttf
ArialHB.ttf
Arial Rounded Bold
Arial Narrow
Arial Black
Arial
NewPeninimMTBoldInclined.ttf
Courier New
CorsivaBold.ttf
Corsiva.ttf
Copperplate.dfont
Comic Sans MS
????.ttf
????.ttf
????.ttf
?? Pro.ttf
Zapfino.dfont
Webdings
Verdana
Trebuchet MS
Times New Roman
Thonburi.ttf
Skia.dfont
Silom.ttf
Sathu.ttf
RaananaBold.ttf
Raanana.ttf
AmericanTypewriter.dfont
NewPeninimMTBold.ttf
NewPeninimMT.ttf
Nadeem.ttf
MshtakanRegular.ttf
MshtakanOblique.ttf
MshtakanBoldOblique.ttf
MshtakanBold.ttf
MarkerFelt.dfont
KufiStandarGK.ttf
Krungthep.ttf
Kai.dfont
InaiMathi.ttf
Impact
Hoefler Text.dfont
Herculanum.dfont
HelveticaNeue.dfont
HelveticaCY.dfont
Gurmukhi.ttf
GujaratiMTBold.ttf
GujaratiMT.ttf
GillSans.dfont
Georgia
GenevaCY.dfont
Futura.dfont
EuphemiaCASRegular.ttf
EuphemiaCASItalic.ttf
EuphemiaCASBold.ttf
Didot.dfont
DevanagariMTBold.ttf
DevanagariMT.ttf
DecoTypeNaskh.ttf
PlantagenetCherokee.ttf
Papyrus.dfont
Optima.dfont
NISC18030.ttf
NewPeninimMTInclined.ttf
AlBayan.ttf
#Gungseouche.dfont
BigCaslon.dfont
BiauKai.dfont
Baskerville.dfont
Baghdad.ttf
#Pilgiche.dfont
#HeadlineA.dfont
AppleMyungjo.dfont
Apple Symbols.ttf
Apple LiSung Light.dfont
Apple Chancery.dfont
Cochin.dfont
CharcoalCY.dfont
ChalkboardBold.ttf
Chalkboard.ttf
Brush Script
#PCmyoungjo.dfont
AlBayanBold.ttf
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

/Users/xxxx/Library/Fonts/
 >>>>>>>>>stay where put:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
none
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sure - not all of these fonts are "really needed" by the system.

>> Please use only scribus 1.3.3.7 and please remove the scribus
>> frameworks from their locations (just to make sure there is no
>> "forgotten" link in this
>> scribus version - you should leave your ghostscript framework  
>> untouched)
> ? ?Okay, indicate to me where I need to download scribus 1.3.3.7 from.  
> I might as well start all
> ? ? ?over again, deleting everything Scribus to get a clean start, no?

Why not - start over -may be we have a little more luck then, or at  
least can narrow this down.

The ghostscript ( the uncompressed goes to Library/frameworks/ - as  
usual):
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/scribus/Ghostscript-8.50- 
macosx.tar.bz2?modtime=1148916383&big_mirror=0

The scribus
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/scribus/Scribus.Aqua 
-1.3.3.7.rc1.tar.bz2?modtime=1168615615&big_mirror=0

The link to the sourceforge repository (all files):
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? 
group_id=125235&package_id=136924

>> This as a first try ... this way.
>>
>> Scribus shouldn't need more than a few seconds to scan folders with no
>> more than about 100 fonts.
>> Be carfeful not to clean out fonts wich are used by the system, again.
>>
>> Ah, yes you are right. If you encounter any continous problems with  
>> any
>> app a proper procedure is always to disable haxies or extensions or
>> startup items and see if the problem still exists.
>>
>> And please try to delete the folder .scribus first (I encounter hangs
>> wich are gone after I let scribus regenerate it's prefs) this might be
>> a false approach but it's worth a try (if the folder exists).
>>
>>> Open
>> terminal
>>> Show all items as list. type:
>> ls -al
>>> you get a list of your files in your User directory (see .scribus?)
>>> if yes, rename invisble (dot)scribus to the visible scribus: type
>> mv .scribus scribus
>>> open your User dir in the finder
>>> see the folder scribus?
>>> delete it
>
> ? ?? Okay. It is deleted. I can't believe I remember how to do  
> Terminal. Back in the "Stone Age" I owned a Commodore Amiga 2000,
> ? ? ?And I used to enjoy using the CLI. I had a friend teach me Unix  
> commands and it's been so long, and I'm old. I'm starting to remember  
> more Unix? ?
> ? ? ?now as I'm doing this.? It's going to be a long night, and I'm  
> determined to get this?program running tonight!
>
> Michael
>
>
>> My compliments for you, working so hard to get scribus running.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> ? I just had to "force-quit" Scribus Aqua after 45 minutes. I
>>> disabled ALL the haxies and it still "hung" at Font Cache. I just
>>> don't get it. I checked the font paths. I have no irregular paths. I
>>> have Extensis's font Fusion, but's that's been disabled forever. The
>>> next thing I'm willing to try is to disable all my login items.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Crisci
>>>
>>> If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog
>>> biscuits in your pocket and then give him only two of them.
>>> - Phil Pastoret
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Crisci wrote:
>>>> []
>>>>> ? I also have Font Card and Unsanity haxies running. Should those  
>>>>> be
>>>>> disabled?
>>>>
>>>> It shouldn't be too hard to find out whether disabling them helps  
>>>> with
>>>> your Scribus problem. If it does, it would be interesting to know
>>>> which
>>>> one of the haxies causes the problem. It might hint at a hidden bug  
>>>> in
>>>> Scribus (or in the haxie).
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Martin