[Scribus] Torture testing Scribus

Craig Bradney cbradney
Thu Mar 23 22:18:46 CET 2006


On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:07, Christoph Sch?fer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 23. M?rz 2006 21:00 schrieb Craig Bradney:
> > On Thursday 23 March 2006 20:43, DaleCoz at aol.com wrote:
> > > In a message dated 3/23/2006 4:57:50 AM Central Standard Time,
> > >
> > > scribus-request at nashi.altmuehlnet.de writes:
> > > > >One girl wrote me a note saying that Scribus developers should be
> > > > >hunted down and strung up.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, some people tend to bite you if you hand them a gift.
> > > > It's usually a sign of missing self worthiness - it leads these
> > > > people to not to see the value of other people's work.
> > > >
> > > > Bye, Tino.
> > >
> > > In this case I think it was more a matter of the girl not quite
> > > understanding the nature of Open Source software.  I don't think she
> > > understood that Scribus developers are voluntarily giving their time
> > > and effort for the good of the community.  Plus she was frustrated
> > > because she really wanted to do a good job and the other two people in
> > > her group didn't care about quality.  As a result she had to do far
> > > more than her share of the work, including all of the layout work. 
> > > When Scribus didn't do what she expected it to do she became more
> > > frustrated.  I did explain that the version of Scribus we were using
> > > was a fairly early development version, and I hope she will look at
> > > Scribus again in six months or so, because based on the roadmap and the
> > > rate at which it has been improving Scribus will undoubtedly be much
> > > more usable by then.
> > >
> > > To be honest, I found 1.3.2 very usable with the few exceptions I
> > > noted, but I'm used to learning software and I'm used to finding ways
> > > of working around bugs or limitations.
> >
> > If you get the chance to explain.. mention a couple of things that might
> > put things in perspective:
> >
> > 1) Everyone learnt the software they now know at some time. At that time,
> > they surely took some time to learn it. Expecting to know how Scribus
> > does things the first time or within a very short period is somewhat
> > unrealistic.
> >
> > 2) Adobe and Quark and all the other commercial software companies spend
> > millions of dollars, yearly, and have done so for many many years with
> > many many developers. Scribus is 4 years old, and now has about 8 people
> > constantly working on it in their free/not-so-free time, with a very
> > helpful contributor base I must add. Money so far received to support
> > this effort is a **lot** less than one full time commercial developer's
> > annual pay for one year.
>
> But you have to admit that it's not so easy to donate. I'm still waiting
> for a PayPal link and an account number to allow supporters remitting
> money. It's simply not there, or did I miss something? Maybe the developers
> could think about a non-profit Scribus foundation or something like that.
> At least German donators, including companies, will be able to donate to
> public benefit organisations and use the receipt for their tax return.

It will be possible soon, yes we are going to start an NFPO soon. Thats not 
actually a complaint about received money, although it would really help at 
times, its just a statement that the two worlds are very hard to compare.

Craig
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