[Scribus] AND operation> Tutorial

Le Tigre scribus
Sun Jun 11 19:22:38 CEST 2006


Cedric Sagne a ?crit :
> All,
> 
> In reply to Mathijs question on clean cut text (AND operation), you will 
> find a step by step tutorial there:
> http://www.market-square.info/tutorials/cleancut_tutorial.pdf
>  which I hope will prove useful.
> 
> Cedric Sagne
> Market Square Web Services
> http://www.market-square.info
> 
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>     1. Re: AND operation (Adrianna Pinska)
>     2. Re: AND operation (Matthijs Zwinderman)
>     3. Re: AND operation (avox)
>     4. Printing custom size paper (Bob Allen)
>     5. Unsubscribe (Laurence Sellin)
>     6. Re: Scribus 1.3.3.x is available for all arches in Debian
>     main (Le Tigre)
>     7. Key bug (Le Tigre)
>     8. Re: Key bug (Gregory Pittman)
>     9. Re: Key bug (Helge Hielscher)
>     10. Re: Key bug (Gregory Pittman)
>     11. Re: Key bug (Helge Hielscher)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:21:25 +0200
>     From: "Adrianna Pinska"
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] AND operation
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID:
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>     On 6/8/06, Matthijs Zwinderman wrote:
>      > Hi All!
>      >
>      > I've got a question, I would like to have an area filled with text,
>      > where you can see a logo in the text.
>      >
>      > The text should be black everywhere, but white at those points where
>      > it intersects with the logo. The logo itself should not be printed!
> 
>     I haven't actually tried this, so I'm not 100% sure how well it will
>     work, but how about:
> 
>     1. Saving the white silhouette of the logo (with a nice smooth edge)
>     as a PNG with transparent background (assuming you have the logo as a
>     picture on a background, you can do this in GIMP)
> 
>     2. Putting the PNG in a picture box with a transparent background
> 
>     3. Putting the box over the box with the text (*without* making the
>     text wrap around the box).
> 
>     This way you can still change the text, move the logo around, etc.
> 
>     I remember that PNGs with transparency are definitely transparent when
>     you put them over other pictures; I can't remember if I ever tried
>     putting them over text.
> 
>     -- 
>     ~ Registered Linux User #334504 ~
>     "Curiously deep, the slumber of crimson thoughts:
>     While breathless, in stodgy viridian
>     Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
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> 
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:19:49 +0200
>     From: "Matthijs Zwinderman"
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] AND operation
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID:
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
>     Thanks everybody!
> 
>     I'm trying your methods right now!
>     The problem is, however, that scribus starts to crash when I try
>     them... Only 1 alinea Ipsum Lorem and my logo is enough!
> 
>     Adrianna, I don't think I know what you mean? It sounds very
>     promising, but if I do that, won't the logo also be visible outside
>     the letters? (it should look like the 'green' in example 4 here:
>     www.market-square.info/pages/pdf_design.htm (tnx cedric)
> 
>     And Andreas, where can I get that version (the 1.3.4cvs-version)?
>     (because that also sounds promising)
> 
>     Matthijs
> 
>     On 6/9/06, Adrianna Pinska wrote:
>      > On 6/8/06, Matthijs Zwinderman wrote:
>      > > Hi All!
>      > >
>      > > I've got a question, I would like to have an area filled with text,
>      > > where you can see a logo in the text.
>      > >
>      > > The text should be black everywhere, but white at those points
>     where
>      > > it intersects with the logo. The logo itself should not be printed!
>      >
>      > I haven't actually tried this, so I'm not 100% sure how well it will
>      > work, but how about:
>      >
>      > 1. Saving the white silhouette of the logo (with a nice smooth edge)
>      > as a PNG with transparent background (assuming you have the logo as a
>      > picture on a background, you can do this in GIMP)
>      >
>      > 2. Putting the PNG in a picture box with a transparent background
>      >
>      > 3. Putting the box over the box with the text (*without* making the
>      > text wrap around the box).
>      >
>      > This way you can still change the text, move the logo around, etc.
>      >
>      > I remember that PNGs with transparency are definitely transparent
>     when
>      > you put them over other pictures; I can't remember if I ever tried
>      > putting them over text.
>      >
>      > --
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>      > While breathless, in stodgy viridian
>      > Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
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>     ------------------------------
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>     Message: 3
>     Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:46:18 -0700 (PDT)
>     From: avox
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] AND operation
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID: <4795825.post at talk.nabble.com>
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> 
> 
>     Matthijs Zwinderman wrote:
>      >
>      > And Andreas, where can I get that version (the 1.3.4cvs-version)?
>      > (because that also sounds promising)
>      >
> 
>     You have to checkout from anonymous cvs, described here:
>     http://docs.scribus.net/index.php?lang=en&page=install1
> 
>     First install the newest cairo, at least 1.1.6 or 1.1.8. Download
>     from here:
>     http://www.cairographics.org/download
> 
>     You should probably download from git since both cairo & Scribus are
>     developing
>     at a fast pace in this area.
> 
>     Then configure Scribus as "make -f Makefile.cvs; ./configure
>     --with-cairo
>     ..." or
>     "cmake -DWANT_CAIRO=1" (depending on what build system you want to use)
> 
>     and build.
> 
> 
>     This is only true for Linux/Unix though. Cairo isn't supported for
>     Scribus/Aqua yet
>     and for Scribus/Win32 you'd have to wait till the first snapshot is
>     available.
> 
>     /Andreas
> 
>     P.S.
>     In fact I just mentioned this because I didn't want the discussion
>     to drift
>     to other products only :-) Normal users will have to wait a little until
>     this
>     feature becomes stable enough.
>     --
>     View this message in context:
>     http://www.nabble.com/AND-operation-t1755251.html#a4795825
>     Sent from the Scribus forum at Nabble.com.
> 
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 4
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:05:42 +0700
>     From: Bob Allen
>     Subject: [Scribus] Printing custom size paper
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID: <1149930343.13049.5.camel at bob-desktop>
>     Content-Type: text/plain
> 
>     How do I print to custom size of paper? I have created a document 297
>     wide x 280 high and I cannot see how to set the paper size.
> 
>     If I try to set the paper size in the printer to custom I don't get the
>     option to define the size.
> 
>     Bob.
> 
> 
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>     Message: 5
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:52:13 +0200
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>     Message: 6
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:33:28 +0000
>     From: Le Tigre
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] Scribus 1.3.3.x is available for all arches in
>     Debian main
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de, malex at tagancha.org
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>     Oleksandr Moskalenko a ?crit :
>      > * John Jason Jordan [2006-06-06 12:00:52 -0700]:
>      >
>      >
>      >>On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:30:54 -0600
>      >>Oleksandr Moskalenko dijo:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>>I think this news will be of interest to people who run Scribus
>     on non-i386
>      >>>architectures. Scribus 1.3.x (scribus-ng package) has been
>     accepted into the
>      >>>Debian main archive yesterday. This means that you can get a
>     binary package
>      >>>for your arch now without having to build from a source package
>     yoursel, if
>      >>>the arch is supported by Debian of course. So, forget about
>     building from the
>      >>>source package and enjoy life even more :). The current package
>     version is
>      >>>1.3.3.1, but I am in the process of uploading a 1.3.3.2 update,
>     which should
>      >>>be available for installation in a couple of days once
>     autobuilders are
>      >>>through with it. Of course you can get the 1.3.3.2 binary i386
>     package and the
>      >>>source package from our repositories on scribus.net and
>     tagancha.org right now
>      >>>if you need to. And, as usual, you can run 1.2.x (scribus) and 1.3.x
>      >>>(scribus-ng) side-by-side without problems.
>      >>
>      >>I'm not a Linux expert. I have Ubuntu-64 Breezy on AMD-64
>     computer. Does
>      >>this mean that 1.3.3.1 should be listed now in the Synaptic
>     apt-get manager?
>      >>(I just have the standard repositories listed.)
>      >>_______________________________________________
>      >>Scribus mailing list
>      >>Scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>      >>http://nashi.altmuehlnet.de/mailman/listinfo/scribus
>      >
>      >
>      > John,
>      >
>      > Ubuntu usually follows the Debian archive for such packages like
>     scribus. I
>      > expect that scribus-ng will be made available from the regular Ubuntu
>      > repositories shortly. Then, you will see it in the synaptic as a
>     binary
>      > package. In the meanwhile please continue building from the
>     source package
>      > from one of our upstream repositories following the short
>     procedure described
>      > on debian.scribus.net.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      >
>      > Alex.
>      > _______________________________________________
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>      > Scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>      > http://nashi.altmuehlnet.de/mailman/listinfo/scribus
>      >
>      >
> 
>     Alex,
>     what about the idea of making a 1.3.4cvs in order to have 3 different
>     versions in parallel?
>     Many thanks for the 1.3.3.2
>     Raphael
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 7
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:11:25 +0000
>     From: Le Tigre
>     Subject: [Scribus] Key bug
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID: <448AD30D.1000002 at le-tigre.net>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
>     Hi everybody,
> 
>     I know this bug seems not very important (I noticed that when I talk
>     about it on ML), but for me it's a real problem.
> 
>     This is the bug:
>     http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1908
> 
>     (Typing ^o in text frame doesn't make ?)
> 
>     If somebody have any idea, it's really a problem for me, cause I spend
>     many time typing the text in text frames, and during an emergancy (I
>     mean when I finish an issue) it's really boring.
>     I think it's beacuse I have QT 3.5 (on other computers with Qt 3.4,
>     there's not that problem): is there a way to come back to Qt 3.4?
> 
>     Many thanks
> 
>     Raphael
> 
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 8
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:03:03 -0400
>     From: Gregory Pittman
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID: <448AD117.8040407 at iglou.com>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
>     Le Tigre wrote:
>      > Hi everybody,
>      >
>      > I know this bug seems not very important (I noticed that when I talk
>      > about it on ML), but for me it's a real problem.
>      >
>      > This is the bug:
>      > http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1908
>      >
>      > (Typing ^o in text frame doesn't make ?)
>      >
>      >
>     I wonder if perhaps Scribus should consider a new approach to this,
>     which might help many more of us who don't use dead keys.
>     Example 1: Having an assignable keyboard shortcut, such as
>     Shift+Ctrl+^,
>     then o produces ?.
>     Example 2: being able to enter the HTML ??, perhaps with a leading
>     backslash.
> 
>     Greg
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 9
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:39:22 +0200
>     From: Helge Hielscher
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID:
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
>     On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:03:03 -0400, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>      >
>      > I wonder if perhaps Scribus should consider a new approach to
>     this, which
>      > might help many more of us who don't use dead keys. Example 1:
>     Having an
>      > assignable keyboard shortcut, such as Shift+Ctrl+^, then o
>     produces ?.
>      > Example 2: being able to enter the HTML ??, perhaps with a leading
>      > backslash.
> 
>     IMHO there are enough ways to enter special characters with
>     the keyboard:
>     *ISO 14755 with F12+hexcode: F12 + f + 4 (+spaces) gives ?
>     *keyboard layouts with dead keys enabled: ^ + o gives ?
>     *using the compose key. e.g. hold Compose and type o + ^
> 
>     Regards,
>     Helge
> 
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 10
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:16:21 -0400
>     From: Gregory Pittman
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID: <448AE245.5020301 at iglou.com>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
>     Helge Hielscher wrote:
>      > IMHO there are enough ways to enter special characters with
>      > the keyboard:
>      > *ISO 14755 with F12+hexcode: F12 + f + 4 (+spaces) gives ?
>      >
>     I don't think hexcodes will ever be a useful solution -- too many to
>     remember.
>      > *keyboard layouts with dead keys enabled: ^ + o gives ?
>      >
>     I tried deadkeys for a while, but if you're not using accented
>     characters much, it gets annoying to double type the dead key to get
>     its
>     original character.
>      > *using the compose key. e.g. hold Compose and type o + ^
>      >
>     I don't even know what a compose key is...
> 
>     When I used Amigas years ago, they had a system that worked like the
>     deadkey but didn't involve losing a printable character to do it.
> 
>     Greg
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 11
>     Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 17:31:59 +0200
>     From: Helge Hielscher
>     Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
>     To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>     Message-ID:
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
>     On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:16:21 -0400, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>      > Helge Hielscher wrote:
>      >
>      >> *using the compose key. e.g. hold Compose and type o + ^
>      >>
>      > I don't even know what a compose key is...
> 
>     Wikipedia is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key
> 
>     It is quite easy to define a compose key (if your distribution
>     has not set up a key for you). You don't need to change your x.org
>     config file. You can change the keys with the setxkbmap tool or a GUI
>     frontend like the KDE Keyboard Tool kxkb:
>     http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kxkb/xkboptions-config.html
> 
>      > When I used Amigas years ago, they had a system that worked like the
>      > deadkey but didn't involve losing a printable character to do it.
> 
>     Care to explain how it worked?
> 
>     Regards,
>     Helge
> 
> 
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Great, it's veru powerful.

I just have a question: I would like to have a manual shape (I mean I 
draw all the points and then there's my shape): for the moment, your 
tutorial works only for an automatical shape.
I tried to make a bezier curve, but it's not a shape, and the "combine 
polygons" doesn't work.
The idea that I have is to make a shape, and then to move the points in 
order to make the shape I wan't. But isn't it possible to make a closed 
shape like a bezier curve?
Anyway, this does also work with eps files. See the document, with the 
barcode.
Many thanks

Raphael
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