[Scribus] AND operation> Tutorial

Cedric Sagne csagne
Sun Jun 11 16:30:41 CEST 2006


All,

In reply to Mathijs question on clean cut text (AND operation), you will find a step by step tutorial there:
http://www.market-square.info/tutorials/cleancut_tutorial.pdf
 which I hope will prove useful. 

Cedric Sagne
Market Square Web Services
http://www.market-square.info


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: AND operation (Adrianna Pinska)
   2. Re: AND operation (Matthijs Zwinderman)
   3. Re: AND operation (avox)
   4. Printing custom size paper (Bob Allen)
   5. Unsubscribe (Laurence Sellin)
   6. Re: Scribus 1.3.3.x is available for all arches in Debian
      main (Le Tigre)
   7. Key bug (Le Tigre)
   8. Re: Key bug (Gregory Pittman)
   9. Re: Key bug (Helge Hielscher)
  10. Re: Key bug (Gregory Pittman)
  11. Re: Key bug (Helge Hielscher)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:21:25 +0200
From: "Adrianna Pinska" 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] AND operation
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
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On 6/8/06, Matthijs Zwinderman  wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> I've got a question, I would like to have an area filled with text,
> where you can see a logo in the text.
>
> The text should be black everywhere, but white at those points where
> it intersects with the logo. The logo itself should not be printed!

I haven't actually tried this, so I'm not 100% sure how well it will
work, but how about:

1. Saving the white silhouette of the logo (with a nice smooth edge)
as a PNG with transparent background (assuming you have the logo as a
picture on a background, you can do this in GIMP)

2.  Putting the PNG in a picture box with a transparent background

3. Putting the box over the box with the text (*without* making the
text wrap around the box).

This way you can still change the text, move the logo around, etc.

I remember that PNGs with transparency are definitely transparent when
you put them over other pictures; I can't remember if I ever tried
putting them over text.

-- 
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    While breathless, in stodgy viridian
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:19:49 +0200
From: "Matthijs Zwinderman" 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] AND operation
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
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Thanks everybody!

I'm trying your methods right now!
The problem is, however, that scribus starts to crash when I try
them... Only 1 alinea Ipsum Lorem and my logo is enough!

Adrianna, I don't think I know what you mean? It sounds very
promising, but if I do that, won't the logo also be visible outside
the letters? (it should look like the 'green' in example 4 here:
www.market-square.info/pages/pdf_design.htm (tnx cedric)

And Andreas, where can I get that version (the 1.3.4cvs-version)?
(because that also sounds promising)

Matthijs

On 6/9/06, Adrianna Pinska  wrote:
> On 6/8/06, Matthijs Zwinderman  wrote:
> > Hi All!
> >
> > I've got a question, I would like to have an area filled with text,
> > where you can see a logo in the text.
> >
> > The text should be black everywhere, but white at those points where
> > it intersects with the logo. The logo itself should not be printed!
>
> I haven't actually tried this, so I'm not 100% sure how well it will
> work, but how about:
>
> 1. Saving the white silhouette of the logo (with a nice smooth edge)
> as a PNG with transparent background (assuming you have the logo as a
> picture on a background, you can do this in GIMP)
>
> 2.  Putting the PNG in a picture box with a transparent background
>
> 3. Putting the box over the box with the text (*without* making the
> text wrap around the box).
>
> This way you can still change the text, move the logo around, etc.
>
> I remember that PNGs with transparency are definitely transparent when
> you put them over other pictures; I can't remember if I ever tried
> putting them over text.
>
> --
> ~ Registered Linux User #334504 ~
> "Curiously deep, the slumber of crimson thoughts:
>     While breathless, in stodgy viridian
> Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:46:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: avox 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] AND operation
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
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Matthijs Zwinderman wrote:
> 
> And Andreas, where can I get that version (the 1.3.4cvs-version)?
> (because that also sounds promising)
> 

You have to checkout from anonymous cvs, described here: 
http://docs.scribus.net/index.php?lang=en&page=install1

First install the newest cairo, at least 1.1.6 or 1.1.8. Download from here: 
http://www.cairographics.org/download 

You should probably download from git since both cairo & Scribus are
developing
at a fast pace in this area.

Then configure Scribus as "make -f Makefile.cvs; ./configure --with-cairo
..." or 
"cmake -DWANT_CAIRO=1" (depending on what build system you want to use)

and build.


This is only true for Linux/Unix though. Cairo isn't supported for
Scribus/Aqua yet 
and for Scribus/Win32 you'd have to wait till the first snapshot is
available.

/Andreas

P.S. 
In fact I just mentioned this because I didn't want the discussion to drift 
to other products only :-) Normal users will have to wait a little until
this
feature becomes stable enough.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:05:42 +0700
From: Bob Allen 
Subject: [Scribus] Printing custom size paper
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
Message-ID: <1149930343.13049.5.camel at bob-desktop>
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How do I print to custom size of paper? I have created a document 297
wide x 280 high and I cannot see how to set the paper size.

If I try to set the paper size in the printer to custom I don't get the
option to define the size.

Bob.


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:52:13 +0200
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Subject: [Scribus] Unsubscribe
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:33:28 +0000
From: Le Tigre 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] Scribus 1.3.3.x is available for all arches in
 Debian main
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de,  malex at tagancha.org
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Oleksandr Moskalenko a ?crit :
> * John Jason Jordan  [2006-06-06 12:00:52 -0700]:
> 
> 
>>On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:30:54 -0600
>>Oleksandr Moskalenko  dijo:
>>
>>
>>>I think this news will be of interest to people who run Scribus on non-i386
>>>architectures. Scribus 1.3.x (scribus-ng package) has been accepted into the
>>>Debian main archive yesterday. This means that you can get a binary package
>>>for your arch now without having to build from a source package yoursel, if
>>>the arch is supported by Debian of course. So, forget about building from the
>>>source package and enjoy life even more :). The current package version is
>>>1.3.3.1, but I am in the process of uploading a 1.3.3.2 update, which should
>>>be available for installation in a couple of days once autobuilders are
>>>through with it. Of course you can get the 1.3.3.2 binary i386 package and the
>>>source package from our repositories on scribus.net and tagancha.org right now
>>>if you need to. And, as usual, you can run 1.2.x (scribus) and 1.3.x
>>>(scribus-ng) side-by-side without problems.
>>
>>I'm not a Linux expert. I have Ubuntu-64 Breezy on AMD-64 computer. Does
>>this mean that 1.3.3.1 should be listed now in the Synaptic apt-get manager?
>>(I just have the standard repositories listed.)
>>_______________________________________________
>>Scribus mailing list
>>Scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>>http://nashi.altmuehlnet.de/mailman/listinfo/scribus
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> Ubuntu usually follows the Debian archive for such packages like scribus. I
> expect that scribus-ng will be made available from the regular Ubuntu
> repositories shortly. Then,  you will see it in the synaptic as a binary
> package. In the meanwhile please continue building from the source package
> from one of our upstream repositories following the short procedure described
> on debian.scribus.net.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alex.
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> 
> 

Alex,
what about the idea of making a 1.3.4cvs in order to have 3 different 
versions in parallel?
Many thanks for the 1.3.3.2
Raphael


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:11:25 +0000
From: Le Tigre 
Subject: [Scribus] Key bug
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
Message-ID: <448AD30D.1000002 at le-tigre.net>
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Hi everybody,

I know this bug seems not very important (I noticed that when I talk 
about it on ML), but for me it's a real problem.

This is the bug:
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1908

(Typing ^o in text frame doesn't make ?)

If somebody have any idea, it's really a problem for me, cause I spend 
many time typing the text in text frames, and during an emergancy (I 
mean when I finish an issue) it's really boring.
I think it's beacuse I have QT 3.5 (on other computers with Qt 3.4, 
there's not that problem): is there a way to come back to Qt 3.4?

Many thanks

Raphael



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:03:03 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
Message-ID: <448AD117.8040407 at iglou.com>
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Le Tigre wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I know this bug seems not very important (I noticed that when I talk 
> about it on ML), but for me it's a real problem.
>
> This is the bug:
> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1908
>
> (Typing ^o in text frame doesn't make ?)
>
>   
I wonder if perhaps Scribus should consider a new approach to this, 
which might help many more of us who don't use dead keys.
Example 1: Having an assignable keyboard shortcut, such as Shift+Ctrl+^, 
then o produces ?.
Example 2: being able to enter the HTML ??, perhaps with a leading 
backslash.

Greg


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:39:22 +0200
From: Helge Hielscher 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:03:03 -0400, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>
> I wonder if perhaps Scribus should consider a new approach to this, which
> might help many more of us who don't use dead keys. Example 1: Having an
> assignable keyboard shortcut, such as Shift+Ctrl+^, then o produces ?.
> Example 2: being able to enter the HTML ??, perhaps with a leading
> backslash.

IMHO there are enough ways to enter special characters with
the keyboard:
*ISO 14755 with F12+hexcode: F12 + f + 4 (+spaces) gives ?
*keyboard layouts with dead keys enabled: ^ +  o gives ?
*using the compose key. e.g. hold Compose and type o + ^

Regards,
Helge



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:16:21 -0400
From: Gregory Pittman 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
Message-ID: <448AE245.5020301 at iglou.com>
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Helge Hielscher wrote:
> IMHO there are enough ways to enter special characters with
> the keyboard:
> *ISO 14755 with F12+hexcode: F12 + f + 4 (+spaces) gives ?
>   
I don't think hexcodes will ever be a useful solution -- too many to 
remember.
> *keyboard layouts with dead keys enabled: ^ +  o gives ?
>   
I tried deadkeys for a while, but if you're not using accented 
characters much, it gets annoying to double type the dead key to get its 
original character.
> *using the compose key. e.g. hold Compose and type o + ^
>   
I don't even know what a compose key is...

When I used Amigas years ago, they had a system that worked like the 
deadkey but didn't involve losing a printable character to do it.

Greg


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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 17:31:59 +0200
From: Helge Hielscher 
Subject: Re: [Scribus] Key bug
To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:16:21 -0400, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> Helge Hielscher wrote:
>
>> *using the compose key. e.g. hold Compose and type o + ^
>>   
> I don't even know what a compose key is...

Wikipedia is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key

It is quite easy to define a compose key (if your distribution
has not set up a key for you). You don't need to change your x.org
config file. You can change the keys with the setxkbmap tool or a GUI
frontend like the KDE Keyboard Tool kxkb:
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kxkb/xkboptions-config.html
 
> When I used Amigas years ago, they had a system that worked like the
> deadkey but didn't involve losing a printable character to do it.

Care to explain how it worked?

Regards,
Helge



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