[Scribus] Again: Tutorial

Allen techwriter
Fri Jul 28 05:23:30 CEST 2006


The Underwater Basket Weaving thing is a hoary old joke in the USA aimed 
at college classes or majors with no real substance or reason for 
existing in a serious institution of learning. That is why I suggested 
it. Content not important but less visually boring than "Lorem ipsum 
dolor sit..." repeated column after column.

Now a couple of questions about Bogdan CMR example. I opened the PDF and 
the type is all fuzzy. Why?

Additionally the margins wouldn't print properly on any printer I am 
aware of on the left and bottom because the space between the type and 
the edge of the paper is less than the printer's margin. Why does a 
sample project not seem to consider the mechanical requirements of 
ordinary laser printers? Even offset litho machines would have 
difficulties with the gripper on the head. If one were to print this 
litho on NCR with a different color of ink for each sheet and the 
different header as to who it was for, this would require 4 plates, 4 
press runs with makeready, as well as collation and ink color charges, 
as opposed to simply using 4 different colored sheets of NCR with a 
legend as to who get what on the top that prints on all sheets.

The final question is related to the PDF creation. It appears that it 
was created in such a manner that Acrobat can not edit it. What gives?



Christoph Sch?fer wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 26. Juli 2006 23:55 schrieb Gregory Pittman:
>> Actually, it's not such a bad idea. The content of the tutorial
>> product/project is arbitrary. why not have it represent something
>> actually useful? We certainly don't want pages of Lorem ipsum (yuck).
>> And, (sorry for being a neurologist) there is the subliminal factor in
>> teaching about Scribus while you manipulate text that tells you about
>> Scribus features.
> Greg, sorry for being no neurologist, but wouldn't it be a bit confusing for 
> newbies to re-create a document by following the tutorial's instructions, 
> while at the same concentrating on the content (a Scribus tutorial)? New 
> users should, IMHO, be able to read a tutorial and at the same time follow 
> the steps described in it. I don't insist on my Rembrandt files, even Allen's 
> "underwater weaving" would be fine, but I think it's really important to draw 
> a line between the content and the layout, which is so very basic for 
> understanding DTP. A matryoshka-doll-like tutorial seems to be the wrong 
> approach from a didcatical point of view.
>> For that matter, it doesn't need to be a single, monolithic project
>> either. At the core (initial page) there can be a simple but not too
>> simple document, which along the way, as Wikis do, have the opportunity
>> for a little side trip into more advanced, complex, perhaps esoteric
>> Scribus features. This way you don't overwhelm the initiate, and you
>> retain the interest of the returnee or the more experienced person.
>> These side trips also bring up opportunities for many to contribute
>> their particular feature without a series of dueling edits.
>> Greg
> Cheers,
> Christoph
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