[Scribus] Suggestion for Frames
Sun Aug 6 19:27:09 CEST 2006
>Louis Desjardins wrote:
>> You're absolutely right, there is no room for confusion while using
>> the styles. When in the Style Manager, the user can apply a keyboard
>> shortcut to any style or leave it like that. If the user choose not
>> to apply any keyboard shortcut, the only way to access the style will
>> be through the Style Manager dialog (or palette) with mouse clicks.
>> One click, one style. When a keyboard shortcut is applied, then this
>> style can be applied with a keystroke. Whether the keystroke will
>> have an effect or not depends on the context. One shortcut, one style.
>> 1. You have set 3 Paragraph Styles for Main Title, Lead Paragraph and
>> Body Text, Main Title.
>> 2. You have given these 3 styles keyboard shortcut 1, 2 and 3 on the keypad.
>> 3. You have set 3 Frame Styles for Main Title, Lead Paragraph and
>>Body Text :
>> a) Large Frame that covers the width of the page, with a height of 3
>> cm within the margins, one column.
>> b) Frame covering 2 column width plus the gap, for Lead Paragraph,
>> with a height of 6 cm, one column.
>> c) Large frame covering the width and height of the page, within the
>> margins, set to 5 columns.
>> 4. You give Frame Style a b c the following keyboard shortcut 4, 5
>> and 6 on the keybad.
>> Now, when you're on a page with no object selected, if you hit keypad
>> 1 2 or 3, nothing will happen. If you hit keypad 4,5 or 6, a text
>> frame correspondind to your Frame Style will be created.
>> In order for styles attributed to shortcut 1, 2 or 3 to work, you
>> need to first select a Text Frame.
>I think the "nothing happening" is consistent with other features of
>Scribus which depend on a frame being selected. One other question might
>be whether there should be an indicator on the toolbar that shows when
>the feature is active (frame selected), then greyed out when a frame is
>> We could also set other Frame Styles for Images. Say for instance you
>> have a magazine with 3 columns. Pics can be 1-column wide, 2-column
>> or 3 column. For each, you can set a Frame Style with these
>> pre-defined coordinates. Attribute to these the shortcuts 7, 8 and 9.
>> You expect Scribus to create an image frame once you hit one of these
>> 3 shortcuts.
>> To create a Frame using the Style manager follows the same rules that
>> you have to follow to draw any frame. You need to have a page in
>> front of you. A Frame can be created on the page, within another
>> frame or beside it. It doesn't matter.
>> Same goes for Line Style or for any style. There cannot be any mix up
>> because the same keystroke cannot call two different styles. If you
>> need more keys, then you need to have a combination of Shift+Keypad
>> or CTRL+Keypad, etc. Of course a power user will prefer to set the
>> first keys available to the more repetitive tasks, leaving the other
>> for less used styles. Provided the context is favorable for the Style
>> to be applied, then the shortcut works. It's like hitting any key on
>> the keyboard: it works only if the working conditions are met.
>> If we are to have Image Style, this could only apply to an existing
>> image within an Image Frame. If you hit the shortcut that is
>> connected to an Image Style when you are editing text, then nothing
>> will happen.
>> In my office, we use those keypad shortcut everyday. In Quark, we are
>> limited to Text Styles (paragraph and character styles). The keyboard
>> is the fastest way to get things done (the mouse is really slow, we
>> all know that). I can only see that implementing this in Scribus will
>> definitely make it a very robust production tool. Expanding it to
>> many other styles (Line, Characters, Frames, etc.) will make Scribus
>> roar! :)
>One of the things that keeps me using Wordperfect is macros. There are
>many things in which it is convenient to assign a name to an arbitrary
>series of operations. I'm not sure if you still can, but you used to be
>able to assign a keyboard shortcut to a particular macro. This might be
>something else to weave into this frame styles concept.
Yes. This is what I had in mind when I used the word "script". I was
thinking of a way to easily do successive operations in one
keystroke. What you describe is exactly that. Thanks!
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