[Scribus] Docks vs. Windows

Heimdall Midgard heimdalle
Tue Nov 15 01:56:02 CET 2005

2005/11/14, PLinnell <mrdocs at scribus.info>:
> On Monday 14 November 2005 07:34, Brian Burger wrote:
> > On 11/13/05, Heimdall Midgard <heimdalle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm just wondering what the opinion of the list is on having
> > > Scribus use docks instead of windows for its tools or "palettes".
> > >
> > > During a recent "job" (I wasn't paid for it), by far the most
> > > tedious part was having to constantly rearrange the windows to
> > > let me see the results of, say, adjusting the dimensions of a
> > > frame.
> > >
> > > I could imagine working with dockable palettes that would fold
> > > away when I click on their title bars (or a dedicated arrow
> > > button). If I want to access the palettes again, I just click on
> > > the corresponding "docked" tab.
> >
> > If you're using Scribus in Gnome, there's a very cool little Gnome
> > trick I discovered last week: you can set Gnome up so that if you
> > double-click on the title bar of a window, it "rolls up" into the
> > title bar - and this works with all apps in Gnome, not just the
> > Gnome-native ones... so it works in Scribus, OOo, the GIMP, and
> > everything.
> >
> > To enable it: System menu --> Preferences --> Windows, then switch
> > "Titlebar Action" from "Maximise" (the default) to "Roll Up". (NB
> > this is all in Gnome 2.12 in Ubuntu 5.10, not sure about other
> > distros/versions of Gnome) To re-open the window, just double-click
> > on the title bar again.
> >
> > It's not quite as good as application-native docking, but it's
> > still a huge help in managing all the windows that some apps need
> > open!
> >
> > Brian.
> > _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> This can be enabled in KDE and blackbox too. I use the same trick a
> lot. It is also known in window manager settings as 'shade' like a
> window shade.
> Franz actually tried to implement this, but it did not work well for
> various reasons. This will be much easier to do in Qt 4, as the
> native widgets have functionality similarity to the docks in kivio.

Pardon my ignorance. Scribus is one of the few QT or KDE apps I
regularly use (along with Konqueror). How are the "docks" in kivio

I was thinking of a dock where all tools could be docked. From reading
the other posts I have the impression that the posters were thinking
simply of a way to temporarily free up screen space so that the user
can see the underlying layout. However, having dozens of minimized (or
shaded) windows floating around as title bars only mimimizes (sorry
for the pun) but doesn't solve the problem of screen clutter. A true
dock solution will have the title bars lined up in a neat row or
column. Whether they go under a different name or not, docks are the
norm in the most popular GUIs like Windows XP, MacOSX,or Gnome.

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