[Scribus] XML format used in Scribus
Sat May 14 22:05:42 CEST 2005
On Saturday 14 May 2005 19:40, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> Marvin Dickens wrote:
> >Is the XML format used in version 1.3 stable or will it
> > change/evolve more before version 1.4 is released? Also, what is
> > the possibility it will change/evolve again as development
> > versions 1.5/1.6 progresses?
> >The reason I am asking is that we want the ability to massage
> > Scribus Documents in their native XML format and I do not want to
> > reinvent the wheel with every new release.
Right now freezing to a stable point is impossible to promise, nor
practical to consider. Otherwise, this cuts of feature enahcements
or optimizations we might find.
> I think it's been pretty clearly stated that so far, the formatting
> of 1.3 files is unstable, thus the admonition to not use 1.3cvs for
> production work.
Correct. 'admonition' is a good way to put it too ;-)
> The last I checked, the original XML-like formatting of Scribus was
> not considered "well-formed", at least by Perl XML parsing modules.
> The problem there largely seemed to be the use of Ctrl-E as a
> newline-equivalent in the files (when I got rid of the Ctrl-E, they
> parsed). XML parsing presumably stumbles on Ctrl-anything.
Part of this is a Qt issue as far as I know. Fixing this means major
breakage in 1.x. file import.
1.4 will have 'well formed' XML and it will be very clearly
> It seems to me that these "soft" newlines should not be part of the
> file as saved, but simply be internalized in the way that the file
> is ultimately displayed by Scribus. Once the file is transformed
> to a format in which this is hard-coded (such as PDF) then the
> point at which Scribus made that line break should be codified.
> I have to say that I am concerned that, from my assessment of
> various Scribus-list messages, there is no plan envisioned for any
> capability for Scribus versions 1.2x or below to be able to handle
> >1.3x files; not even conversion utilities.
No DTP I know can do that cleanly, except Illustrator and some other
vector drawing apps.
Note: I mention cleanly.. IME there are always some issues.
However, when you "backsave" you lose higher level features. In this
case of EPS, export from Illustrator 9+, this enhances its
conformance to EPS specs. In my experience this is almost a necessity
for working in cases like Illy 9+ > Pagemaker 6.5+. There are others
I know of too.
Pagemaker 6.5 can open 7.0 files, except if they have PDF => 1.3
placed in them.
These cases are exceptions to the rule that "backsaving" to an older
format is easily doable in DTP.
> >I can understand that
> there are features of 1.3x and beyond that do not correspond to
> prior versions, but the result is that at some point anything <1.3x
> will suddenly be crippled. One then must worry that at some point
> advanced versions will then not be able to load anything <1.3x.
We have discussed creating a special file loader to convert older
1.2.x docs into the new file format - if - needed.
Scribus 1.2.x will open Scribus 0.4.8+ docs. Franz and I have kept
quite a few old files around from various 0.X versions to test
More information about the scribus