Dah... sorry... my mistake.... When I compiled last night I forgot to place the 1.2CVS Scribus in the LOCAL user bin... I put it in the 1.1.7 bin.... so what I said can be ignored... I see that what I thought was 1.1.7 was really 1.2CVS.... my old 1.2CVS was what I had compared to.... mea culpa, mea colpa, mea maxima culpa. Tom