[Scribus] lively debate

Bob White bob
Fri Jan 9 19:22:30 CET 2004

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:51:27 -0500
Mardigrafe - Louis Desjardins <louis_desjardins at mardigrafe.com> wrote:

> ? (At) 11:14 -0500 09/01/04, Bob White ?crivait (wrote) :
> >With reference to spell checking, I'm doing a document that has a
> >text box for a heading, a small box with "normal" text, a couple of
> >pictures, captions in a text box for the picture, another header,
> >etc.
> >
> >In other words, there are 6 or 8 text boxes per page.  Importing text
> >only imports one box at a time, so using another application for
> >spell checking is severely painful.  I could get by if there was an
> >export of the whole document to a text file.  Then I could run a
> >spell check elsewhere and manually transport the corrections back,
> >but a spell checker would be ideal.
> This is a very interesting discussion. Let me share my working
> experience : DTP with Quark for over 15 years now (and so many white
> hair!).
> On the production side, what you want is THE definitive text (which,
> obviously, is wishful thinking but anyway!). In our view, the
> spellchecking and text editing must be done upstream. Then, the text
> arrives in our caring hands for a shape-up, along with the pics and
> logos and so on. What one would expect, at that stage of the work, is
> a normal proof-reading that would lead to identify small corrections,
> typos, etc. Nothing that will bother too much the layout. All this to
> say, when in production - and I mean "production" where you have to
> deal with hundreds of pages everyday - there is not much room (time)
> for spellchecking by that same worker. This is done, usually, by
> another team of specialized workers, the proofreaders, whose job is
> not to identify some typos but to identify the typos!
> HOWEVER!!!! ...
> On the other side of production, some people (and there may be lots of
> people!) are going to edit the text and organize the layout in "one"
> single step (in some way).
> QuarkXPress is not a renowned program for its spellchecking
> capabilities. Over the years, other vendors have come up with mature
> solutions. Some are connected to Quark (through XTensions) some are
> confined to the word processor...
> It is a matter of how you see this work. From my point of view, I
> wouldn't ask for a spellchecker in Scribus. But if there was one, I
> think it would be useful anyway, to a fair percentage of the users,
> maybe more on the "bureautic" side of the editing planet!
> Does that sound fair enough!?

Thanks for your reply, and I see your point.  I could easily accommodate
preparing the text in another application if there was a way to cut and
paste from there into the text boxes in Scribu.  I'm dealing with
roughly 160 separate boxes, and the only way I see make it work is to
generate 160 text files. Keeping all that straight is mind-boggling.

If there is a better way, I would like to learn it. :)

Bob White

> By the way, I missed a few ones on yesterday's wishes (but it might be
> there already) :- tracking/kerning (so useful)
> - horizontal scaling of fonts
> Also : if there is to be such thing as bullet/numbering function,
> please let us control the settings! We like much more using tabs and
> positive/negative numbers to set properly any kind of hierarchical
> information (than the automated and so hard to cope with automated
> settings that are in some word processors...).
> Good day to all!
> Louis Desjardins
> >
> >This is the first document I've done with Scribus, so I'm still
> >learning.  Maybe there is a better way to format the document.  I
> >will say that Scribus is the best program I've ever used to get the
> >layout the way I want it.  I started this document in StarOffice.
> >Initally, everything goes much faster, then the automatic stuff
> >starts getting to you.  Pretty soon, there is a jumble of stuff that
> >is impossible to sort out.
> >
> >Keep up the good work, and I vote for a spellchecker.
> >
> >Bob White
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