[Scribus] Registerhaltigkeit

Fri Apr 2 18:50:22 CEST 2004

Hello Marcel,

The text in the right column can certainly be adjusted so all three columns align perfectly.

This is typically a good example where a "lock to grid" feature would be helpful. [Feature request ;-)]

The text hangs to the element that is just on top of it. In that case, in the 2 firsts columns text is perfectly aligned and hangs from the picture box. The 3rd one hangs on the text box which is just a little too low. Enlarge your text box from the top precisely to the amount of space you want the last line to go up and everything will be in place. (It is a matter of a few points) Also, you might have to adjust your picture box (and maybe the pic itself) to make sure everything fits. What might happen when you do so is one line of text going on top of the picture if you open up too much on the top. Again, with a few adjustements, you should be able to get everything in place.

I can't remember if there is a feature that lets you control how the text runs around an element. It could also be done that way (with the "bottom" value).

Tell me if it works ok. I don't have Scribus installed on my day job computer (sorry!) so I try to remember the features and I also try to remember how we used to deal with this kind of issue in the earlier versions of QuarkXPress.

Auf wiedersehen!

Louis

? (At) 10:51 -0500 02/04/04, Marcel Spitau ?crivait (wrote) :
>Hello Louis,
>
>unfortunately I am not able to speak or write on simple word in french.German
>would be good ;) But I will let "pictures talk" ;) I send you a jpg were you
>can see the problem.
>
>The right column has not the same length, a the single rows aren't on the same
>line, like the two other columns.
>
>I hope you can imagine, what I mean ;)
>
>Thanks for your help
>Marcel
>
>Am Donnerstag, 1. April 2004 23:01, haben Sie folgendes geschrieben :
>> Hello Marcel,
>>
>> I think I can help you with this but I want to be sure I understand exactly
>> what you mean. Can you provide more information?
>> Do you speak French?
>> Je parle fran?ais!
>>
>> Louis
>>
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>> >Hi folks,
>> >
>> >I have the same problem, not with headlines, but with pictures. If I have
>> > got a page with three columns of text. In the left upper corner, there is
>> > a picture over two columns. The last line in the right coloumn ends
>> > before the columns in the other two columns.
>> >
>> >I would be very glad to hear about a cool "secret-not-yet-found" feature
>> > or a propper workaround.
>> >
>> >Did you all get it in my horrible english?
>> >
>> >Thanks at all
>> >Marcel
>> >
>> >Am Donnerstag, 1. April 2004 18:19, hat  Mardigrafe - Louis Desjardins
>> >
>> >folgendes geschrieben:
>> >> Hi Kurt,
>> >>
>> >> It is easy to achieve this using a combination of the "before" and
>> >> "after" values of "paragraphs", and the "leading". If you want text to
>> >> be aligned from one column another, you have to make sure the leading
>> >> value is the same throughout the body text; as for the subtitles, you
>> >> need a combination of values that, when added together gives you a value
>> >> that falls into a multiple of the value of the leading.
>> >>
>> >> Here is an example.
>> >>
>> >> Your text is on a 10 point leading. You have a subtitle of 1 line that
>> >> you want bolder and bigger. Leave the leading of 10 points since there
>> >> is only one line to your subtitle. Put a value of, say 7 points before
>> >> and 3 points after (7 + 3 = 10) to the subtitle paragraph's attributes
>> >> and you're done. The subtitle will "float" in between 2 lines of text,
>> >> with a little more white space over it. Actually, you will get 7 points
>> >> of white space, followed by a line of text (subtitle) with a 10 points
>> >> leading, plus an extra white space of 3 points. So, 7 + 10 + 3 = 20
>> >> which equals to 2 lines of text with a leading of 10.
>> >>
>> >> If you subtitle is 2 lines, then you are going to need to increase the
>> >> value of the leading to whatever value fits the font and typesize you
> > >> have selected and adjust the before and after value so the total of the
>> >> leading, for that many lines, plus the before and after values will fall
>> >> into a multiple of 10, which is the main body text leading value.
>> >>
>> >> I hope this is clear enough! Don't hesitate to write if anything.
>> >>
>> >> Louis Desjardins
>> >>
>> >> ? (At) 08:06 -0500 01/04/04, Kurt Lhotzky ?crivait (wrote) :
>> >> >I don't know, if I use the correct words:
>> >> >If you use multiple columns and different text styles (10 pt and 12 pt
>> >> > for subtitles, for instance), lines are not at the same heighth. Is
>> >> > there any trick how to force lines to be at the same line in both
>> >> > columns? A sort automatic alignment? I think, it's called
>> >> > "Registerhaltigkeit" among typographers.
>> >> >
>> >> >Kind regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Kurt
>> >> >
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>> >
>> >- --
>> >Marcel Spitau
>> >http://www.spitau.de
>> >Tel. (040) 88 95 24 81
>> >
>> ># Demokratie: die Kunst, sich an die Stelle des Volkes zu setzen und ihm
>> ># feierlich in seinem Namen, aber zum Vorteil einiger guter Hirten, die
>> ># Wolle abzuscheren.
>> ># *** Romain Rolland
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>
>Marcel Spitau
>http://www.spitau.de
>Tel. (040) 88 95 24 81
>
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>Hello Louis,
>
>unfortunately I am not able to speak or write on simple word in french.German
>would be good ;) But I will let "pictures talk" ;) I send you a jpg were you
>can see the problem.
>
>The right column has not the same length, a the single rows aren't on the same
>line, like the two other columns.
>
>I hope you can imagine, what I mean ;)
>
>Thanks for your help
>Marcel
>
>Am Donnerstag, 1. April 2004 23:01, haben Sie folgendes geschrieben :
>> Hello Marcel,
>>
>> I think I can help you with this but I want to be sure I understand exactly
>> what you mean. Can you provide more information?
>> Do you speak French?
>> Je parle fran?ais!
>>
>> Louis
>>
>> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> >Hash: SHA1
>> >
>> >Hi folks,
>> >
>> >I have the same problem, not with headlines, but with pictures. If I have
>> > got a page with three columns of text. In the left upper corner, there is
>> > a picture over two columns. The last line in the right coloumn ends
>> > before the columns in the other two columns.
>> >
>> >I would be very glad to hear about a cool "secret-not-yet-found" feature
>> > or a propper workaround.
>> >
>> >Did you all get it in my horrible english?
>> >
>> >Thanks at all
>> >Marcel
>> >
>> >Am Donnerstag, 1. April 2004 18:19, hat  Mardigrafe - Louis Desjardins
>> >
>> >folgendes geschrieben:
>> >> Hi Kurt,
>> >>
>> >> It is easy to achieve this using a combination of the "before" and
>> >> "after" values of "paragraphs", and the "leading". If you want text to
>> >> be aligned from one column another, you have to make sure the leading
>> >> value is the same throughout the body text; as for the subtitles, you
>> >> need a combination of values that, when added together gives you a value
>> >> that falls into a multiple of the value of the leading.
>> >>
>> >> Here is an example.
>> >>
>> >> Your text is on a 10 point leading. You have a subtitle of 1 line that
>> >> you want bolder and bigger. Leave the leading of 10 points since there
>> >> is only one line to your subtitle. Put a value of, say 7 points before
> > >> and 3 points after (7 + 3 = 10) to the subtitle paragraph's attributes
>> >> and you're done. The subtitle will "float" in between 2 lines of text,
>> >> with a little more white space over it. Actually, you will get 7 points
>> >> of white space, followed by a line of text (subtitle) with a 10 points
>> >> leading, plus an extra white space of 3 points. So, 7 + 10 + 3 = 20
>> >> which equals to 2 lines of text with a leading of 10.
>> >>
>> >> If you subtitle is 2 lines, then you are going to need to increase the
>> >> value of the leading to whatever value fits the font and typesize you
>> >> have selected and adjust the before and after value so the total of the
>> >> leading, for that many lines, plus the before and after values will fall
>> >> into a multiple of 10, which is the main body text leading value.
>> >>
>> >> I hope this is clear enough! Don't hesitate to write if anything.
>> >>
>> >> Louis Desjardins
>> >>
>> >> ? (At) 08:06 -0500 01/04/04, Kurt Lhotzky ?crivait (wrote) :
>> >> >I don't know, if I use the correct words:
>> >> >If you use multiple columns and different text styles (10 pt and 12 pt
>> >> > for subtitles, for instance), lines are not at the same heighth. Is
>> >> > there any trick how to force lines to be at the same line in both
>> >> > columns? A sort automatic alignment? I think, it's called
>> >> > "Registerhaltigkeit" among typographers.
>> >> >
>> >> >Kind regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Kurt
>> >> >
>> >> >_______________________________________________
>> >> >Scribus mailing list
>> >> >Scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>> >> >http://nashi.altmuehlnet.de/mailman/listinfo/scribus
>> >
>> >- --
>> >Marcel Spitau
>> >http://www.spitau.de
>> >Tel. (040) 88 95 24 81
>> >
>> ># Demokratie: die Kunst, sich an die Stelle des Volkes zu setzen und ihm
>> ># feierlich in seinem Namen, aber zum Vorteil einiger guter Hirten, die
>> ># Wolle abzuscheren.
>> ># *** Romain Rolland
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>> >Scribus mailing list
>> >Scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
>> >http://nashi.altmuehlnet.de/mailman/listinfo/scribus
>
>- --
>Marcel Spitau
>http://www.spitau.de
>Tel. (040) 88 95 24 81
>
># Ich suche nicht, ich finde.
># *** Picasso
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