[Scribus] Re: Scribus Nachrichtensammlung, Band 5, Eintrag 7
e millspaw
millspaw
Thu Jul 3 15:25:50 CEST 2003
Please remove me from this list. Unfortunately, I do not speak/read
German.
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> 1. Re: python scripting plugin (Franz Schmid)
> 2. Text chains (Patrick)
> 3. Re: qt problem - work-around found (Patrick)
> 4. Re: Text chains (Peter Linnell)
> 5. Re: bus error starting scribus (Peter Linnell)
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> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:04:30 +0200
> From: Franz Schmid <Franz.Schmid at altmuehlnet.de>
> To: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
> Subject: Re: [Scribus] python scripting plugin
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> Petr Van=ECk wrote:
> > hello
> >=20
> > after all I've planned to play with this one in the latest CVS to test =
> some
> > utilities. but I've got errors compiling $SUBJECT and running scripts w=
> ith
> > previously installed scripter (scribus: relocation error:=20
> > /usr/local/lib/scribus/plugins/libscriptplugin.so.0.0.0: undefined symb=
> ol:
> > make[2]: *** [scriptplugin.lo] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory=20
> > `/home/subzero/programy/scribus-scripting-0.4/scriptplugin'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/subzero/programy/scribus-scripting-0.=
> 4'
> > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> >=20
> > I suppose Scribus changed a lot in latest CVS so scripter cannot
> > be installed now. Am I right?
> >=20
> > btw scribusdoc.h have this on line 39-41:
> > #ifdef HAVE_CMS
> > #include CMS_INC
> > #endif
> The scripter Plugin cannot be used with the newest Scribus CVS snapshots,=
> becaused
> I've changed some important things in configure and config.h. But I will =
> release a
> new enhanced Plugin along with Scribus 1.0
>
> Best Regards,
> Franz Schmid
>
>
>
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>
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 21:56:39 -0400
> From: Patrick <magicpage91 at earthlink.net>
> To: scribus <scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de>
> Subject: [Scribus] Text chains
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> New problem: text chains across pages
>
> I don't think this has been addressed before and if so, just disregard
> my ramblings. While working in landscape mode pages, created two equal
> size text boxes on page. Inserted some text in the first box, created
> text chain to the second box, flowed smoothly continuing text from the
> first. Created second page, again two text boxes same size. Tried
> flowing text or creating text chain from second box to the third on the
> new page, it would not work. Tried again to create text chain, no
> success. Changed document view/setup to show facing pages, thinking it
> might need to have both viewable at the same time to work. Scribus
> locked, cpu usage to 100% and had to kill the process.
>
> I hope that is detailed enough for you guys to duplicate error. One
> thing I am a bit confused about is the way you have incorporated the
> text flow and text chains. From what I can tell, the text box you want
> the text to flow from has to be the active box, while selecting the text
> chain icon and clicking in the next box you want the text to flow. Is
> that correct? I ask, because of the other programs I have used, it is
> usually a matter of grabbing the text chain/flow tool, clicking in the
> box/page that has your overflow of text, then clicking on the following
> pages or boxes until all the text is visible. Also, in other programs,
> there were settings to create identical pages/boxes on pages
> automatically when inserting text, until all the text was inserted, if
> there is to be an overflow.
>
> 1-July-2003 build id and F-C-C-T and 1.0RC2 and SuSE 8.2 and qt3 3.1.2
>
> Patrick
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 22:18:07 -0400
> From: Patrick <magicpage91 at earthlink.net>
> To: Scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
> Subject: Re: [Scribus] qt problem - work-around found
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> On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 15:04:01 -0600
> Steve Herrick <steveh at greens.org> wrote:
>
> > Magic Page wrote:
> >
> > > That's why we all subscribe to these mail lists Steve! ;o)
> > > We are here in varying degrees of knowledge, but always eager to
> > > help no matter what level we are at!
> >
> >
> > True enough, but this is only the latest case of what many people
> > (including me) say about Linux and its software - it's great, once you
> >
> > get it installed. But if the installation process is difficult and/or
> > confusing, people won't ever get to see how great it is. Newbies may
> > not have the patience to sign up for a list like this, then wait a day
> > or two for an answer - and that's assuming they know of the list at
> > all. And they certainly won't read configure in the meantime.
> > ====================
> Steve,
> Linux is about as simple as anything to install right now, even for the
> casual user. What most people don't think about is the fact that
> Windows comes on their machines, so they have never had to install that
> from scratch. If they did, you would hear as many more
> complaints/screams about that, I can assure you! A first time user
> should buy a Linux package to get the manuals included. These are
> invaluable to them in many ways. If that is not possible or the person
> is just too tight to purchase, then one should have a 10 year old around
> or other knowledgable person to lend support. ;o)
> ----------------------------
>
> > My thinking right now is how Scribus can compete with InDesign and
> > Quark. It has quite a ways to go, but it is also improving at an
> > amazing pace. I see three urgent issues:
> >
> > 1. Allow text editing without redrawing the frame after every stupid
> > character.
> > 2. Accurately portray fonts at all sizes.
> > 3. Make installing easier. RPMs are good; so is apt-get. CVS is not
> > good - lots of us want to be designers, not developers.
> >
> > Then we can move on to the more detailed things. I have more lists. :)
> >
> > --
> > Steve
> > ==
> =======================
>
> Scribus, I believe could compete quite well in the DTP arena. It does
> indeed have a ways to go in some areas, but considering the version,
> these guys have done a remarkable job! I would like to respond to your
> 3 items as well.
>
> 1. It would be nice if you could set it up to automatically create and
> continue typing into a new text box, should you exceed the one you are
> working in at the time or even have the box automatically expand as you
> type. I could see some problem with this though as Scribus is not
> intended to be a word processor, so don't try to use it as such. Maybe
> the developers could include a basic text editor in the program to open
> as a separate window. I have used other DTP programs that do this.
>
> 2. Font display has been working pretty well for me in Scribus for a
> long time now, but I would like a better result when changing sizes.
> Having to go into the Measurements window to adjust line spacing to keep
> down the font overlap seems crude.
>
> 3. RPMs are available for just about every distro now of the stable
> releases, but if you want to keep on the bleeding edge, then CVS is the
> only way to go! CVS was not meant to be for the faint of heart or casual
> user. It's meant for the gotta have the latest build, I don't care if it
> crashes in the middle of an important project type of a guy or girl.
> It's the user that decides how far they want to go, user or
> developer. :o)
>
> Hope that helps to clarify.
>
> Patrick
>
>
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> Date: 02 Jul 2003 23:57:34 -0400
> From: Peter Linnell <scribusdocs at atlantictechsolutions.com>
> To: Patrick <magicpage91 at earthlink.net>
> Cc: scribus <scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de>
> Subject: Re: [Scribus] Text chains
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> On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 21:56, Patrick wrote:
> > New problem: text chains across pages
> >
> > I don't think this has been addressed before and if so, just disregard
> > my ramblings. While working in landscape mode pages, created two equal
> > size text boxes on page. Inserted some text in the first box, created
> > text chain to the second box, flowed smoothly continuing text from the
> > first. Created second page, again two text boxes same size. Tried
> > flowing text or creating text chain from second box to the third on the
> > new page, it would not work. Tried again to create text chain, no
> > success. Changed document view/setup to show facing pages, thinking it
> > might need to have both viewable at the same time to work. Scribus
> > locked, cpu usage to 100% and had to kill the process.
>
> Works for me with tonight's cvs. I just created 8 pages with landscape
> mode and switched several times between facing pages and single page
> layout. I started with a single page and threaded the text frames one by
> one. One note, sometimes you need to scroll the view up and down just a
> bit to provoke a screen refresh to get the text flow to show on screen.
> Otherwise, it works fine.
>
> >
> > I hope that is detailed enough for you guys to duplicate error. One
> > thing I am a bit confused about is the way you have incorporated the
> > text flow and text chains. From what I can tell, the text box you want
> > the text to flow from has to be the active box, while selecting the text
> > chain icon and clicking in the next box you want the text to flow. Is
> > that correct?
>
> That is correct.
>
> > I ask, because of the other programs I have used, it is
> > usually a matter of grabbing the text chain/flow tool, clicking in the
> > box/page that has your overflow of text, then clicking on the following
> > pages or boxes until all the text is visible. Also, in other programs,
> > there were settings to create identical pages/boxes on pages
> > automatically when inserting text, until all the text was inserted, if
> > there is to be an overflow.
>
> Add that to the wish list for 1.1..
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 01:32:46 -0400
> From: Peter Linnell <scribusdocs at atlantictechsolutions.com>
> To: Ralf =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F6ling?= <ralf at hoeling.org>
> Cc: scribus at nashi.altmuehlnet.de
> Subject: Re: [Scribus] bus error starting scribus
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> On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 15:32, Ralf H?ling wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 01.07.03 um 21:21 Uhr schrieb Paul:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >> Mac OS X 10.2.6
> > >> Powerbook G4 800 Mhz
> > >
> > > I take it you're using Apple's X11
> > yes
> > > and a new-ish version of Qt from
> > > Trolltech
> > no, all from fink. qt3, 3.1.2-3
> > > (and if so, which version. Also which version of gcc did you
> > > use to compile it up?)
> > I'm not sure, perhaps 3.3?
> >
> > thanx
> > Ralf
> >
> There is a new story on OSNews about Qt on the Mac
> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3929
>
> Hope that helps,
> Peter
>
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