[scribus] scribus Digest, Vol 132, Issue 10

Martha Knight drymar at gmail.com
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I could not remember the name of the OCR program Xerox marketed and then spun off to , um, I think the company now called Dragon. It was TextBridge. It worked very well, and saved me so much time. 

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   3.  R.I.P. mrdocs (1963--2019) (Christoph Sch?fer)
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:35:07 +0100
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Thank you Martha,

I am learning more and more thanks to you and all other helpful people in this group.

Best regards,

Holger

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?mne: Re: [scribus] scribus Digest, Vol 132, Issue 8

In my uses, I see PDF as something like a fax?a picture of a document. In using optical character recognition to turn PDFs into editable files, I find that some applications are better than others at distinguishing between look-alikes like S and 5, or l and I. Roman fonts seem to work better; sans serif fonts yield more errors. First OCR program I recall was one devised and later spun off by Xerox maybe 20 years ago. Aldus had a good PDF/OCR program, which was folded into Acrobat after Adobe acquired Aldus. Later Adobe provided free Acrobat Reader, renamed Reader, and other companies started providing good OCR apps?Serif, Nuance, to name a couple, and some OCR versions were bundled with scanners and multi-function printers.

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 17:06:30 +0100
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Hi both of you,

Thank you for your kindness to answer and comment on my question.

When I got the problem, I used the font Arial. Now I have changed the font in the complete book to Calibri, and the problem is thereby solved. When I now export the pdf-file, there is no problem at all. That shows that you are right when you say that the size of the pdf-file has nothing to do with the problem.

I still do not know why there is a problem with one font and not with another, but as long as the problem is solved, I will not dig any deeper in this.

Thank you very much for your help!

Best regards,

Holger, living in Sweden 


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Holger W?stlund wrote:
> Has anyone any tips to give me regarding this, for me, very strange 
> problem?

I'll attempt to build on and not repeat Gregory Pittman's suggestions. I wonder if the following could be the root of the issue:

- a font you're using is made that way -- have you used the relevant font elsewhere and noticed the same issue?

- you're seeing the effect of a ligature (combination of two or more
letters) rendering in a special way that looks wrong? For instance, some fonts have a grapheme for "ae" as "?" (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86 for more information) which might be drawn differently from how "a" and "e" would look if they were joined together.

I concur with Gregory Pittman in that I too don't think the size of your PDF is the issue.

Perhaps you could post a one-page PDF extract from your document which demonstrates the problem? I'm guessing there is some place where we could all look at it and see the issue without needing to run code to get the PDF file, perhaps archive.org? Or perhaps this mailing list accepts small attachments?

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:14:47 -0400
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On 3/20/19 12:06 PM, Holger W?stlund wrote:
> Hi both of you,
> 
> Thank you for your kindness to answer and comment on my question.
> 
> When I got the problem, I used the font Arial. Now I have changed the font in the complete book to Calibri, and the problem is thereby solved. When I now export the pdf-file, there is no problem at all. That shows that you are right when you say that the size of the pdf-file has nothing to do with the problem.
> 
> I still do not know why there is a problem with one font and not with another, but as long as the problem is solved, I will not dig any deeper in this.
> 

This may have to do with how good the font hinting is with one font to another.

Greg




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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:48:55 +0100
From: Holger W?stlund <holger.wastlund at gmail.com>
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Thank you Claude,

I am learning more and more in this group from all you experienced people.

Best regards,

Holger

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?mne: Re: [scribus] scribus Digest, Vol 132, Issue 8

I do a car club newsletter. When I could no longer use Pagemaker I started
using Scribus. My main computers are Ubuntu Linux. Some fonts in Scribus
would not give me all the options I needed. (Bold, italic, italic bold etc.)
My printing company uses all Windows based software. 
When I would send the PDF down, if the font was different on the picture
captions it got all screwed up. Scribus did not not have Times New Roman (I
used that with Pagemaker) Once I installed Times New Roman fonts as a
preference all my problems went away.

Good Luck!



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>
> Hi both of you,
>
> Thank you for your kindness to answer and comment on my question.
>
> When I got the problem, I used the font Arial. Now I have changed the font
in the complete book to Calibri, and the problem is thereby solved. When I
now export the pdf-file, there is no problem at all. That shows that you are
right when you say that the size of the pdf-file has nothing to do with the
problem.
>
> I still do not know why there is a problem with one font and not with
another, but as long as the problem is solved, I will not dig any deeper in
this.
>
> Thank you very much for your help!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Holger, living in Sweden
>
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Fr?n: J.B. Nicholson [mailto:jbn at forestfield.org]
> Skickat: den 20 mars 2019 03:37
> Till: scribus at lists.scribus.net
> ?mne: Re: [scribus] I have a problem exporting from Scribus
>
> Holger W?stlund wrote:
>> Has anyone any tips to give me regarding this, for me, very strange 
>> problem?
> I'll attempt to build on and not repeat Gregory Pittman's suggestions. I
wonder if the following could be the root of the issue:
>
> - a font you're using is made that way -- have you used the relevant font
elsewhere and noticed the same issue?
>
> - you're seeing the effect of a ligature (combination of two or more
> letters) rendering in a special way that looks wrong? For instance, 
> some fonts have a grapheme for "ae" as "?" (see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86 for more information) which might be
drawn differently from how "a" and "e" would look if they were joined
together.
>
> I concur with Gregory Pittman in that I too don't think the size of your
PDF is the issue.
>
> Perhaps you could post a one-page PDF extract from your document which
demonstrates the problem? I'm guessing there is some place where we could
all look at it and see the issue without needing to run code to get the PDF
file, perhaps archive.org? Or perhaps this mailing list accepts small
attachments?
>
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> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:14:47 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [scribus] I have a problem exporting from Scribus
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> On 3/20/19 12:06 PM, Holger W?stlund wrote:
>> Hi both of you,
>>
>> Thank you for your kindness to answer and comment on my question.
>>
>> When I got the problem, I used the font Arial. Now I have changed the
font in the complete book to Calibri, and the problem is thereby solved.
When I now export the pdf-file, there is no problem at all. That shows that
you are right when you say that the size of the pdf-file has nothing to do
with the problem.
>>
>> I still do not know why there is a problem with one font and not with
another, but as long as the problem is solved, I will not dig any deeper in
this.
>>
> This may have to do with how good the font hinting is with one font to
another.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
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The Scribus Team is deeply saddened to announce the loss of our friend and colleague Peter Linnell who in the end lost his long battle against cancer.


It is no understatement to say that without Peter Scribus wouldn't be what it is today. It was Peter who spotted the potential of Franz Schmid's initially humble Python program and, as a pre-press consultant at the time, contacted Franz to make him aware of the necessities of PostScript and PDF support, among other things. Peter also wrote the first version of the Scribus online documentation, which resulted in his nickname "mrdocs" in IRC and elsewhere. Until recently, and despite his detoriating health, Peter continued to be involved in building and releasing new Scribus versions.


Scribus was the project he helped to set on track and which marked the beginning of his journey into the world of Free Software development. While it remained at the heart of his commitments to Open Source in general and Libre Graphics software in particular, Peter contributed to Free Software in many other ways as well. For example via contributions to projects related to freedesktop.org, as a package builder of many Free programs for several Linux distributions on the openSUSE Build Service, and later as an openSUSE board member. Peter was also crucial in bringing the Libre Graphics community together by way of sharing his expertise with other graphics-oriented projects and his assistance in organzing the first Libre Graphics Meetings. In the sometimes ego-driven and often emotional world of Open Source development, Peter managed to get along very well with almost everybody and never lost his sense of humour.


We will remember Peter "mrdocs" Linnell for what he was: an optimist, an incredible team player, an honest man and, above all, a friend.


Our thoughts are with his family.


March 2019,
The Scribus Team



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I am sad as  a uk user of Scribus and have gained as a graphic designer x



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The Scribus Team is deeply saddened to announce the loss of our friend and colleague Peter Linnell who in the end lost his long battle against cancer.


It is no understatement to say that without Peter Scribus wouldn't be what it is today. It was Peter who spotted the potential of Franz Schmid's initially humble Python program and, as a pre-press consultant at the time, contacted Franz to make him aware of the necessities of PostScript and PDF support, among other things. Peter also wrote the first version of the Scribus online documentation, which resulted in his nickname "mrdocs" in IRC and elsewhere. Until recently, and despite his detoriating health, Peter continued to be involved in building and releasing new Scribus versions.


Scribus was the project he helped to set on track and which marked the beginning of his journey into the world of Free Software development. While it remained at the heart of his commitments to Open Source in general and Libre Graphics software in particular, Peter contributed to Free Software in many other ways as well. For example via contributions to projects related to freedesktop.org, as a package builder of many Free programs for several Linux distributions on the openSUSE Build Service, and later as an openSUSE board member. Peter was also crucial in bringing the Libre Graphics community together by way of sharing his expertise with other graphics-oriented projects and his assistance in organzing the first Libre Graphics Meetings. In the sometimes ego-driven and often emotional world of Open Source development, Peter managed to get along very well with almost everybody and never lost his sense of humour.


We will remember Peter "mrdocs" Linnell for what he was: an optimist, an incredible team player, an honest man and, above all, a friend.


Our thoughts are with his family.


March 2019,
The Scribus Team

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