[scribus] chain frames, "do not" link them

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I recall using "Text chain" and "enchaining" text areas, must be from my 
early CorelDraw/QuarkXpress years. Nowadays Quark uses "links" extensively.
I agree that "link" has become strongly associated with web-links 
(formerly hyperlinks). Perhaps we should avoid using "link/linking" 
without enough context (text flow, text area, etc.)?

Just thoughts,

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Þann 15.12.2018 20:03, skrifaði ZASKE Martin:
> Just testing if one can write/talk about chains without using the word
> link as Owen had wondered:
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> In Scribus "chaining of text frames" means connecting them in such a way
> that any text which does not fit the first frame will spill over into
> the second frame (in that specific chain) and so on.
> 
> Scribus text-chains have properties which lets you (for example) run a
> cursor through your text and jump to the following text frame in a chain
> when you hit the end of a frame.
> 
> When done properly, certain text properties can be applied to an entire
> chain of text-frames at once (for example changing font-size or applying
> a named style).
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> For a native speaker there should be no problem, to find enough
> not-link-words to write about text chains. Like "connecting",
> "logically-attaching", "arranging-in-order", "hooking together".
> 
> A "link" has indeed these days taken a strong sense of web-link which
> takes you to some other location.
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> I have to add to this discussion that for me as a new user it was
> unclear what a "story" versus a "text" was. If I remember correctly, in
> Scribus world a story is all the text (i.e. written matter) which
> belongs to (or is contained in) one chain of text-frames.
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> 
> I am always in favour of disambiguating. And naming all text-chaining
> issues "chain", "chaining" and using the term "link" and "linking" for
> other technologies makes sense to me. You got my +1.
> 
> This will also help with localisations or any (machine) translation of
> Scribus documentation.
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> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> On 14.12.2018 22:54, Owen wrote:
>>
>>> hi
>>>
>>> i've opened a ticket for renaming all instance of chaining text frames:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=15507
>>>
>>> currently, both "chain" and "link" are used, with "link" being more
>>> frequent.
>>>
>>> the main goal is to free the concept of "link" for using it with the
>>> clickable links... which is what most people would probably expect...
>>>
>>> does anybody disagree with this?
>>>
>>> greg, would you agree to make a patch for it?
>>>
>>> in the ticket i've listed all places where i've found "link" to be
>>> used... excluding the docs.
>>> can anybody spot other occurrences?
>>>
>>> have a wonderful evening
>>> a.l.e
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>> I must confess to having never been confused with the word "link" when used with text frames.
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>> My 2002 OED is probably not much help as it defines "chain" as a "link" amongst other things. For example, a chain "is a series of links". I think the meaning is defined by context.
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>> One wonders if you could define the chaining of text frames without using the word "link".
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>> However for consistency, maybe it is best to use just one word for the concept of joining text frames.
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>> Owen
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>> Owen
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