[scribus] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Font subset question

benedek benedek_peter at upcmail.hu
Thu Sep 21 20:30:11 UTC 2017


The problem seems similar: https://forum.high-logic.com/viewtopic.php?t=5890


>
>
> Thanks Bert
>
> I have Linux Mint 18.3 and Scribus 1.5.4.
>
> Please try it:
>
> -- Open new document
> -- Insert TextBox
> -- Insert some chars in TextBox
> -- F2 - Text Properties - Linux Libertine O or Linux Libertine G or 
> Arial or Times New Roman or Roboto etc.
> -- File menu - Export - Save As PDF
> -- Fonts tab - Fonts to embed: There is selected font.
> -- General tab - Compatibility: PDF/X-1a
> -- Save
>
> You upload the PDF file the https://www.pdf-online.com/osa/validate.aspx.
> The result is incorrect.
> This seems a problem. The print house didn't know use this.
>
> If all fonts in the document is Subset (Subset all), the result of the 
> test: "Document validated successfully". I did not dare try the 
> printed. :-(
>
> The print house asked: "Can you give vector document?", but PDF/X1-A 
> (and PDF/X-3 and 4) export does not support the "Outline all fonts" 
> function, so I could not give it, I sent the document in tiff format. 
> :-( .
>
>
> You said it: "I actually use PDF 1.3 for most stuff. I send to a 
> professional printer, and I usually outline all fonts."
>
> How do you do this?
>
> regards
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> 2017-09-21 13:08 keltezéssel, Bert Driehuis írta:
>> Dear Benedek,
>>
>>> I made the PDF/X-1a and this is included embedded fonts. The print 
>>> house told, some font not visible or instead of visible a wrong 
>>> character.
>>> I checked the PDF document a online PDF validator 
>>> (https://www.pdf-online.com/osa/validate.aspx), and it is told:
>>>
>>> File    Dokumentum-2.pdf
>>> Compliance    pdf1.3
>>> Result    Document does not conform to PDF/A.
>>> Details
>>>
>>> Validating file "Dokumentum-2.pdf" for conformance level pdf1.3
>>> The glyph for character 96 in font 'AxeHandel' is missing.
>>> The glyph for character 221 in font 'AxeHandel' is missing.
>>> The document does not conform to the requested standard.
>>> The document contains fonts without embedded font programs or 
>>> encoding information (CMAPs).
>>> The document does not conform to the PDF 1.3 standard.
>>> Done.
>> Apparently, the font AxeHandel is missing two glyphs. Scribus does not
>> appear to check the correctness of the font, but the validator does.
>> The validator does not make clear why it thinks the document is not
>> valid PDF/A, and as others have mentioned, the spec is ambiguous in
>> places.
>>
>> There are many fonts with errors, even commercial fonts from large
>> font publishers can have the occasional error. Sometimes you can fix
>> the error with FontForge, but that is a very specialised tool that is
>> not recommended for casual use.
>>
>> When you convert the font to outlines, the problematic code from the
>> fonts is removed so the external validator can no longer see font
>> errors. That will effectively paper over any error: if the PDF looks
>> okay to you, it will print okay. I actually use PDF 1.3 for most stuff
>> I send to a professional printer, and I usually outline all fonts.
>>
>> I have downloaded Axe Handle from DaFont
>> (http://www.dafont.com/axehandel.font) and got a font dated July 23rd,
>> 2013. It does appear to have a valid glyph for the backtick character
>> (96) and for Y acute (229), so maybe your problem goes away if you
>> update your font (and in the case of Windows, restart your computer;
>> for other OS'es restarting Scribus is usually enough to pick up
>> changed fonts).
>>
>> As a side note, I do not recall you mentioning which version of
>> Scribus you use. In Scribus 1.5.3, the font handling has seen a lot of
>> changes that may (positively or negatively) impact your experience. If
>> you're using 1.4.6 or older, you may want to try upgrading; if you're
>> using 1.5.3, you may want to see if you can reproduce the problem with
>> 1.4.6. Be aware that you can't use an older version of scribus to open
>> newer documents, so if you try upgrading scribus, please work on a
>> copy of your original document until you are sure you do not have to
>> revert to the older release.
>>
>> With kind regards,
>>
>> Bert
>>
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