[scribus] Fwd: Re: Wieder zurück mit Problemen

ale rimoldi ale.comp_06 at xox.ch
Tue Feb 7 08:43:12 UTC 2017

On 06/02/17 22:16, Gregory Pittman wrote:
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [scribus] Wieder zurück mit Problemen
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:47:33 -0500
> From: Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
> To: Albrecht Will <albrecht.will at online.de>
> On 02/06/2017 10:27 AM, Albrecht Will wrote:
>> Am Montag, 6. Februar 2017, 09:47:09 CET schrieben Sie:
>>> On 02/06/2017 12:22 AM, Albrecht Will wrote:
>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>> thanks for your answer. It was the second respond to my question. Your
>>>> hint is yet wellknown.
>>>> The first respond asked me to unsubcribe from the list. I will do this
>>>> with
>>>> respect. Thanks
>>> That wasn't directed to you. So, are you still having trouble with TOC?
>>> What isn't working right?
>>> Greg
>> In the german forum I got the advice, not to work with TOC until its
>> rewritten. Now I wait for an hint, how to do TOCs effectively.
> Playing with this a bit, and also checking the wiki page, the wiki is
> decidedly cryptic.
> Probably the first step you should do is to go to Document Setup >
> Document Item Attributes. There, create an attribute and name it TOC, or
> whatever you like. Click OK.
> Now, when you go to Document Setup > Tables of Contents, you should be
> able to add a new one, and find your name (TOC) in the drop down list;
> choose that. Filling in other attributes is optional at this point.
> Choose the Destination Frame you want your TOC to be in - it needs to
> already exist. Choose a Paragraph Style if you want. Click OK.
> Now go to one or more frames with content, and from the context menu
> select Attributes. Under the drop down list for Name you should now find
> TOC, select that. Under Value put in what you want to show up in the
> table of contents. Click OK.
> At this point you should be able to select Extras > Generate Table of
> Contents, and get some results in the frame you chose for the TOC.

At this point you might guess, why i suggested you, not to use the 
current TOC system.

Personally, I don't know of anybody who used it.
Some have tried.

You will have to retype each title in a popup and all you get is the 
current page of the frame where the title is in.
Of course, you're not allowed to have two titles in the same frame.

As I told you, you will be faster by typing the TOC yourself.

And, generally speaking, even if Scribus has got much better, it's IMO 
not yet 100% ready for documents where manually compiling a TOC is not 
With just a bit of luck 1.6 will.

You're doing pioneer work and it's nice to see you filling bug reports 
when you notice that things do not work!


p.s.: If you're wondering, yes, I know how the current TOC works and 
asked the team to remove it from Scribus. It's an anti-feature: people 
who discover it, lose time trying to learn it; and are disappointed when 
they find out how it does (not) work; we lose time explaining how to use 
it or why not to use it.
A lose lose situation!

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