[scribus] Gregorian scores in Scribus

John Culleton john at wexfordpress.com
Sat Nov 21 12:41:10 CET 2009

On Saturday 21 November 2009 03:24:56 Pierre Couderc wrote:
> Well, we are speaking here of Gregorio, not Lilypond.
> Gregorio is extremely simple : you can read the doc of the 
language : it
> is a few pages.
> Gregorio is more limited and more simple than Lilypond, but 
does well
> what we ask it : Gregorian scores.
> It is extremely efficient : you write scores very quickly.
> And yes, it is a language, you must read the doc and 
understand it.
> Music people know languages :  a score is a language.
> You must learn the language, you need well a couple of hours 
for that...
> So if you have less than a page to write, keep the pencil and 
> manuscript.
> Else read the doc and use Gregorio.
> And there are no complex brackets : if you are able to read a 
> score, you are able to create it with Gregorio.
> For the question of GUI, yes, there is a graphic environment : 
> With Scribus, Gregorio is in a graphic environment exactly at 
the same
> level as LaTeX or Lilypond in Scribus.
> But there no other GUI available, even if some are in project.
> Pierre
> > Just a quick music typesetting question...
> >
> > Pierre, do you use a GUI front end for Lilypond? Four or five 
years ago I
> > sweated entering some motets by Victoria and got so fed up 
with the
> > lilypond punctuation, incomprehensible parsing messages, 
> > lining up syllables/melisma etc. that I went back to pencil 
> > manuscript paper. I liked the output of Lilypond. Good 
typesetting does
> > make sightreading easier, especially for older 
singers/players. You can
> > read the note groups by "words" rather than by "letters".
> >
> > But ...
> >
> > I'm not a software engineer - I hate keeping track of nested 
> > angled brackets etc. - and the lilypond developers are well 
known for
> > their dislike of GUIs. I see that good things have been done 
> > recently with third party software that produces .ly output. Do 
you have
> > experience of any front-ends?
> >
> >
> > Clive
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I inquired of the Mup list how one would do Gregorian on a four 
line staff using that program. The output of Mup is PostScript. A 
very minor edit of the PostScript file will render the top line 
invisible, e.g., 
It's a one-line change to the PostScript output.  You'll find this line:

1 lines sub  2  lines 1 sub {   % loop from bottom line to top line

in the "/staff" subroutine.  If you change the second "1" to be a 
"2", it won't draw the top line.  Of course everything else remains, 
such as bar lines being the same length as always, etc.
I should add that square note heads are a standard option in Mup. 
Just another alternative.

PostScript is a language. It is easily convertible to pdf or even 
eps. But unlike pdf it is easily editable. Look up 


on the internet and you will find instructions on creating 
documents directly in PostScript.   
John Culleton
"Create Book Covers with Scribus"
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