[scribus] editing table

John Culleton john at wexfordpress.com
Tue Jul 28 03:04:41 CEST 2009

On Monday 27 July 2009 05:27:28 pm John Beardmore wrote:
> John Culleton wrote:
> > On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:34:15 pm John Beardmore wrote:
> >> John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >>> ...If I need borders
> >>> then I typically create the table in OpenOffice.org Writer,
> >>> being careful to mimic the text styles that I am using the
> >>> Scribus document. Then I print to file from Writer. In
> >>> Scribus I use File > Import > Get Vector File, which imports
> >>> the file as grouped vector objects. It's not editable in
> >>> Scribus because printing to file converts all the text to
> >>> outlines.
> >>
> >> What sort of file do you print to from OO ?
> >>
> >>> A lot of people have been asking for real tables for a long
> >>> time, but it is not going to happen for quite a while yet. I
> >>> can only assume that the developers have decided it is too
> >>> complex to tackle right now.
> >>
> >> Which is a serious PITA for those of us doing any kind of
> >> technical work !
> >
> > Decades ago programming guru Grace Hopper cautioned against
> > using FORTRAN for COBOL tasks and vice versa.
> >
> :)  And he may have been half right depending on how he defined
> and COBOL tasks.

"He" was definitely a she, when I listened to her address meetings 
of the local ACM chapter she was a Lt. Cdr. in the U. S. Navy.  And 
she did not just define tasks for COBOL, she defined COBOL.  She 
invented it in about 1958. COBOL was a dollars and cents language, 
as befits a language named  COmmon Business Oriented Language. 
FORTRAN was a FORmula TRANslator for engineers, scientists and 
matematicians. FORTRAN had real, double and integer number types. 

The kind of work each was good for was defined in part by the kinds 
of data types available. 

Grace Murray Hopper was finally retired with the rank of Rear 
Admiral from the deck of the U. S. Constitution, a frigate that saw 
action in the American Revolution and the War of 1812. When during 
the TV broadcast her wheel chair was pushed up the gangway to pass 
between the ranks of sideboys in their knee britches and three 
corner hats the command was "Hats off, the Admiral is coming 
aboard."   Her flag was hoisted  to the mizzen  peak for the first 
and last time.   

I wept a little. You see I am still a COBOL programmer at heart, and 
she was Grandma COBOL.
John Culleton
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