[Scribus] Some ideas, and some clarifications maybe.

[Richard]

OK, fist of all, i have made some works on PDF files, and PDF X1 or PDF 
X3 is suppossed to work with embedded color profiles (actually it is), 
so as i have read is one of the better choices to send your work to 
press, so "print shop" does not need the same 
software/version/monitor/printer you are using AND it works even for RGB 
and/or CMYK printing (it is suppossed to be this te main concept behind 
PDF X1/X3).
This is the way i'm working since i started with scribus, why?, because 
prints shops's preferred options here are only CorelDraw and PageMaker,  
and if you ask them  how to send them the files they always say... 
PageMakerX CorelDrawX as if it were the only method in the world. I have 
asked earlier in this forum for options using SVG files for example 
because of a "print shop" didn?t know them at all and even worse, it 
doesn't know anything else than CDR 10.0 files....!!!!
OK, now back on track, about color management, and home color 
management, off course the best choice is always have color profiles 
installed for everything you are using. But, in the past when playing 
around, sometimes i have made "by eye calibration", took a printed work, 
then adjust "on screen" colors, playing around with monitor adjustments 
until my screen went as close as the printed version as possible. Even 
better if there is any software to make proper adjustments, always the 
best choice is to use a color scale rather than a photo or drawing to be 
sure every color gets similar.
And the last instance, even if you are making everything just fine, you 
can find what happened to me when a "print shop" prepared colors by 
eye!!! so, the same printing came out always different.

Bien, primero que nada, he hecho algunos trabajos usando archivos PDF, 
ya que PDF X1 o X3 supone el trabajar con perfiles de color embebidos 
(realmente es as? que trabaja), seg?n he le?do es una de las mejores 
opciones para enviar el trabajo a la imprenta ya que no necesitan estar 
usando el mismo software/version/monitor/impresora que est?s usando Y 
adem?s, este sistema funciona indistintamente para impresiones RGB o 
CMYK (parece ser que este era el fin fundamental detr?s de PDF X1/ X3).
Esta es la manera en que estoy trabajando desde que empec? con Scribus, 
por que?, simplemente porque las imprentas en mi pa?s solo conocen 
CorelDRAW y Pagemaker y si les pregunt?s como enviarles el trabajo la 
respuesta es siempre la misma, Pagemaker X o CorelDRAW X como si fuera 
la ?nica opci?n en el planeta. Consult? en este foro antes por opciones 
para trabajar con archivos .SVG ya que una imprenta ni conoc?a estos 
archivos y a?n peor, no conoc?a nada que no fueran archivos CorelDRAW 
10..!!!
volviendo al tema, sobre el manejo de color, la mejor opci?n es tener 
perfiles instalados para cada aparato que est?s usando. En el pasado 
hice algunas correcciones "a ojo" de color que no quedaron tan mal, 
primeramente tomaba una prueba impresa y luego ajustaba el monitor hasta 
que los colores en pantalla se acercaran lo suficiente al impreso. 
Incluso es mejor si ten?s alg?n programa que haga ese tipo de ajustes, 
siempre va a ser mejor imprimir una escala de colores que una foto o un 
dibujo, para buscar asegurarse de que nos acercamos en todos los colores.
Adem?s, incluso si estuvieras haciendo todo bien, te podr?a pasar como a 
m?, que en una imprenta preparaban las tintas a mano y "a ojo" y cada 
impresi?n de ex?ctamente la misma plancha quedaba distinta!!!


/Please, read about PDF X3 or PDF X1 files i think next part will be 
better explained.

Por favor, busca informaci?n acerca de archivos PDF X3 o PDF X1 pues 
creo que esta pr?xima parte quedar? mejor explicada.
/
>> or a single PDF file that is so different from
>> one machine to another, whether it is also not the fault of my work or
>> the printer.
>>     
>
> A pdf almost always obviously appear differently on different computers 
> with different screens, OS versions, etc. This is because different 
> screens, video cards, etc display the "same" colour totally differently. 
> The computer cannot see the colour on the screen so it has no way to 
> compensate.
>   

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