<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><br><div>Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Von: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Alexandre Prokoudine <<a href="mailto:alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com">alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Datum: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">20. Mai 2011 16:04:18 MESZ<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>An: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Craig Bradney <<a href="mailto:cbradney@scribus.info">cbradney@scribus.info</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Kopie: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Louis Desjardins <<a href="mailto:louis.desjardins@gmail.com">louis.desjardins@gmail.com</a>>, Peter Linnell <<a href="mailto:plinnell@scribus.info">plinnell@scribus.info</a>>, avox <<a href="mailto:avox@arcor.de">avox@arcor.de</a>>, Jean Ghali <<a href="mailto:jghali@libertysurf.fr">jghali@libertysurf.fr</a>>, Franz Schmid <<a href="mailto:Franz.Schmid@altmuehlnet.de">Franz.Schmid@altmuehlnet.de</a>>, Alessandro Rimoldi <<a href="mailto:ale@ideale.ch">ale@ideale.ch</a>>, Cedric Gémy <<a href="mailto:cedric.gemy@gmail.com">cedric.gemy@gmail.com</a>>, claudia krummenacher <<a href="mailto:claudia@neunauge.com">claudia@neunauge.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Betreff: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: Scribus/OIF development round for 2011</b><br></span></div><br><div>On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Craig Bradney wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Two things only, as I am on iPhone:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- Alex, please don't complain about rc3, svn has less crashes, use it, I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">know you know how. Most of them were related to text undo. It was too late<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in the process to add it but it was a critical addition for 1.4.<br></blockquote><br>rc3 specific things are only the tip of the iceberg. I'm pretty sure I<br>made it clear :)<br><br><blockquote type="cite">- Style Manager stays, I have not seen one single convincing argument<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">against it, other than it's own bugs. Estan from our gsoc tables project has<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">proven that adding new types of styles to SM is pretty easy - his test for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">tables took under a day. Plus, you are suggesting adding more controls to a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">palette that you say is already too complicated.<br></blockquote><br>I have to say I'm torn. On one hand, managing styles should be<br>convinient, and SM is OK for that. OTOH, the way new styles are<br>created, edited and applied is a complete disaster. Take it from<br>someone who came up with SM design :) (admittedly, the initial design<br>was changed along the way, and not the way I liked)<br><br>IMO we need a complete usability research on that. E.g. we already<br>discussed on-canvas formatting options before as a way to keep<br>attention locus, but I know of no decisions made (not that I tracked<br>it), and anyway it's just one of approaches, not part of some big<br>picture.<br><br>P.S. Could we take the discussion to scribus-dev@ please? I know Louis<br>unsubscribed, and I was on the verge of unsubscribing myself one time,<br>but all this CC thing is really not very handy.<br><br>Alexandre Prokoudine<br><a href="http://libregraphicsworld.org">http://libregraphicsworld.org</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>