2010/11/30 Gregory Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpittman@iglou.com">gpittman@iglou.com</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On 11/30/2010 09:07 AM, Louis Desjardins wrote:<br>
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2010/11/30 "Christoph Schäfer" <<a href="mailto:christoph-schaefer@gmx.de" target="_blank">christoph-schaefer@gmx.de</a><br>
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And, as Greg already mentioned, we need human beings willing to do<br>
the work before we can start the creation of language-specific<br>
screenshots.<br>
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The way around. I think we have all the evidences that this doesn’t<br>
work. The numbers are clear. We have 3 languages out of 49. The doc has<br>
been in that language state for years as the GUI has evolved a lot<br>
faster. I was even surprised at the end of the count to be at 49! Wow!<br>
If so many people care about the GUI translation, I guess that we should<br>
understand the message.<br>
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That's one interpretation, Louis. Another would be that documentation in open source projects doesn't work in general. I don't see that in any project small numbers or large groups vociferously complaining about the lack of documentation by itself really makes any difference at all. One hopes that sooner or later some generous individuals step forward and try to actually create something.<br>
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I might be able to speak somewhat for Christoph also since we have come to know each other quite well even though we've never met, but I can certainly say that it hurts a bit when the efforts that we've made to work on the wiki, work we've done on the printed manual, work we've done to resurrect the value of the online docs is acknowledged by complaints that we're somehow not doing enough to create multilingual clones, or that we're not spoon-feeding the potential-yet-so-far-nonexistent other language artists out their with their necessary materials.<br>
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I'm not trying to shut off all criticism, but I think it's a bit unfair for us seemingly be blamed for the lack of docs in languages other than English. I suppose if someone did step forward they could expect criticism for their translations not coming fast enough or not being good enough. (at least we're not spitting out something from Google translate)<br>
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Maybe we can manage to turn down the temperature of this discussion just a bit.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am not too sure of understanding what is the problem at raising the documentation issue and I do not intend to be overwhelmingly critical over the work that has been done.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am not too sure to understand either just how the doc workflow works.</div><div><br></div><div>Can we translate the doc? can we help write it? can this job be on a wiki? (so we can work on it step by step, from time to time, alone or in a group of people). How can we improve the doc workflow, in fact.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Louis</div><div><br></div><div>p.s. Sorry but I didn’t read your post before answering to Craig’s one.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Greg<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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