[scribus-dev] [scribus-team] Platform for Scribus trainings

["Christoph Schäfer"]

Hi all,


Gerrit's questions are valid. Here's my take:

- We cannot certify trainers at the moment, at least not on a global scale. 

- However, I would consider "training trainers" (actually already did this by training so-called multiplicators for a large organisation) if I have the time, e.g. one time per year at Linuxhotel or a similar venue. But that would be German-language trainers only.

- We can apply different quality labels to announced trainings, from unknown to certified to trusted.

- If we know trainers and their qualities we can label their training trusted, certified or not. This would be true for, e.g., Gerrit and Beat Kipfer.

- We could also ask for a detailed description of the curriculum and/or training materials, if necessary under a non-disclosure agreement. If it looks reasonable, we could label a training as "Looks OK based on the written description" or something similar.

In the end, you'll never know what happens in the classroom, but this is also true for schools and universities. People either can teach or they can't. What we can control to a certain degree is the factual correctness of the contents after receiving the "paperwork".

Regarding the schedule, I would like to be this a continuing work. Announced trainings would remain there until the time for applications has expired.

As for using the word customer, it's absolutely correct. A teacher deserves to be compensated for his work, and since trainings are voluntary, no matter whether they are being booked by an individual or an organisation, we are talking about customers -- customers of the trainer or the organisation that employs the trainer. That doesn't make them customers of a software company, though ;) And the price for the trainings will be determined by the market.


Christoph

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 um 21:58 Uhr
> Von: "Craig Bradney" <cbradney at scribus.info>
> An: "Private Scribus Development List" <scribus-team at lists.scribus.net>
> Cc: "Christoph Schäfer" <christoph-schaefer at gmx.de>, "Scribus Development Mailing List" <scribus-dev at lists.scribus.net>, Kunda <kunda at scribus.net>, gbr at ipaa.nl, beat.kipfer at publicollege.ch, "carsten liersch" <cliersch at bauwerk-design.de>, peter at pre2media.ch, iw at linuxhotel.de
> Betreff: Re: [scribus-team] Platform for Scribus trainings
>
> I agree with Gerrit. 
> 
> BTW the only way to certify the training is for the trainer to run it with us in the course, or perhaps a video. I don’t think we as a team, have the time. Perhaps others might.
> 
> 
> > On 09 Feb 2016, at 10:33, gbr at ipaa.nl wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Christoph e.a.,
> > 
> > I think it is a good idea. Beit that adding such a category may raise
> > expectations by customers, which may lead to disappointment if a training
> > is not up to expectations or maybe cancelled.
> > 
> > - Who is going to teach the trainers?
> > 
> > - How do you see this training schedule? As something on offer once a
> > month or just on request?
> > 
> > - The word customers seems strange to me in relation with OpenSource.
> > Currently, commercial courses in computersoftware usually come with a
> > stiff pricetag that would shake the OpenSource user, who of course is used
> > to the word "Free". Any coments on that?
> > 
> > Anyway, count me in for reflection on the subject, developing materials or
> > whatever may come up. For the time I'll let the idea sink in.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > Gerrit Bruijnes
> > 
> > ---The Netherlands---
> > 
> > http://ipaa.nl/uitgeverij/computerboeken/3-waar-zit-de-kneep
> > 
> > ===========================================================================
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Once the current problems with the website have been solved, I'd like to
> >> add a category separate from "Support", namely "Training". It would be
> >> more than simply a list of addresses of individuals, but more like a
> >> calendar with training events that can be booked. The calendar should
> >> indicate the title of the training opportunity, as well as a link to a
> >> detailed description of the training programme, including location and
> >> language.
> >> 
> >> I also suggest to add a mechanism that lets the Scribus Team certify the
> >> reliability of a training offer. It wouldn't be required for an addition
> >> to the training calendar, but we could at least help potential customers
> >> with a certificate or a recommendation, once we have been allowed to
> >> analyse the curriculum under a non-disclosure agreement with respect to
> >> their own training materials.
> >> 
> >> At the Team level, I think we can guarantee quality control at least for
> >> the followig languages: English, French, German, Dutch, probably also
> >> Italian and Spanish.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> What do you think?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Christoph
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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