[scribus-dev] Paragraph Indentation Options in Scribus

Louis Desjardins louis.desjardins at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 14:26:35 UTC 2011


2011/8/10 Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>

> On 08/10/2011 02:49 AM, Aidas Žandaris wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes,  i talked about nameless (or named but modified) style for only one
>> text paragraph, i.e. about exception in layout.
>> Making layouts using styles is easy and we recommend it to students. But
>> the the layout is not a technical thing with all strict formal rules.
>> Making layout is an art, rather than a technical job. Complex layouts
>> often need many very small and different exceptions.
>> Suggestion to work only with styles is incorrect. And it discourages
>> potential users of Scribus.
>> Good layouts need a lot of small exceptions. But every time the exceptions
>> are still different (in the same layout). If the exception is the same and
>> they need oftentimes,
>> your suggestion is right. We need to create (or import) another paragraph
>> style. But if the exception found in one or two times, then the creation of
>> a new style or import another style that is really bad advice. :)))
>>
>>
> One might also argue that it is bad advice to have numerous minor
> variations  in indentation, paragraph spacing, and so on. This begins to
> become an unnecessary visual distraction that has nothing to do with the
> content, or good layout and design.
>
> The suggestion to work with styles is not incorrect, it's a matter of
> working with the tool that you have in a way that it will allow. I can
> understand the desire to have Scribus do some things it can't or change the
> way it does them, but these limitations remain for now.
>
> Right now we have a hierarchical structure to Paragraph and Character
> styles, such that a Paragraph style implies a particular Character style,
> with a certain font and the font's features. It might make more sense and
> greater utility to be able to apply a Paragraph style devoid of any specific
> connection to a Character style, and thus by mixing/matching Paragraph and
> Character styles you have many more possibilities without having to do so
> much fiddling with style settings.
>
> This by itself would not address the specific issue you brought up, but it
> could lead to a loosening of the ways that indentations and so on can be
> easily adjusted. I think one would also like to make some isolated paragraph
> adjustments, and then later be able to quickly give that a name so it could
> be reused elsewhere.


This is actually and very precisely why we need *all* the settings at hand
in the PP. When and if you need a style from a particular set of parameters,
you right-click and create a style with a name.

The difference is one of points of views. Styles have not much to do with
the creative process. Accessing quickly just about any type settings is
"creative sensitive" while putting together style and applying them has to
do with producing with efficiency. Both need to be accomplished.

Cheers!

Louis

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